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Michael Chapman's "Armenian Genocide Lesson"

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Michael Chapman, editorial director at the Cato Institute ( contributed the following to The Moscow Times.

Holdwater fired back to this crackerjack journalist, who did not respond. Additional comments are highlighted in yellow.

How could anyone so irresponsibly content with only one side of a story have the nerve to actually offer to teach a "Lesson"? Mr. Chapman's woeful ignorance and bias will forever remain on record, to his shame.

 Armenian Genocide Lesson

Monday, May 19, 2003


Armenian Genocide Lesson


By Michael Chapman

The U.S. government is rightly calling for the prosecution of Iraqis who committed human rights abuses and war crimes. Unfortunately, that same U.S. government downplayed Genocide Awareness Day on April 24, which marked the 88th anniversary of the Armenian genocide. In that horror in 1915-17, Turkey killed an estimated 1.4 million Armenians. It's time to stop playing politics with mass murder.


As the Ottoman Empire fell apart, nationalist Turks staged a coup and gained control of Turkey in 1908. This "Young Turks" government was dictatorial and headed by three men. From their own words, letters, documents, diplomatic correspondence from Italy, America and Germany, news reports, eyewitness accounts, photographs and other documentation, it is clear that the triumvirate followed policies to exterminate the Armenian population by one means or another. The Young Turks used World War I as cover to commit their atrocities while most of the world was looking elsewhere.


Thus, starting on April 24, 1915, thousands of Armenians were arrested and imprisoned, charged with anti-government activity. Most were then executed. Hundreds of thousands of others were killed by starvation, dehydration, beatings, rape and execution. Others were worked or marched to death.


On May 19, 1916, government leader Enver Pasha said: "The Ottoman Empire should be cleaned up of the Armenians and the Lebanese. We have destroyed the former by the sword, we shall destroy the latter through starvation." In July 1916, the German ambassador cabled to Germany, "In its attempt to carry out its purpose to resolve the Armenian question by the destruction of the Armenian race, the Turkish government has refused to be deterred by our representations, nor by those of the American Embassy." American Ambassador Henry Morgenthau Sr. said in 1919: "When the Turkish authorities gave the orders for these deportations, they were merely giving the death warrant to a whole race; they understood this well, and, in their conversations with me, they made no particular attempt to conceal the fact."


In 1981, U.S. President Ronald Reagan said, "Like the genocide of the Armenians before it, and the genocide of the Cambodians which followed it, ... the lessons of the Holocaust must never be forgotten." In 1994, Israel's deputy foreign minister, Yossi Beilin, said: "It was not war. It was most certainly massacre and genocide, something the world must remember. ... We will always reject any attempt to erase its record."


Jemal Pasha, Turkey's interior minister, publicly admitted that "800,000 Armenian deportees were actually killed." Estimates by R.J. Rummel, a University of Hawaii political scientist and respected genocide scholar, place the number killed at around 1.4 million.


Today, the government of Turkey denies there was any "genocide" and argues that Armenians also killed Turks during the war. The latter point is true. However, many of those Turks were killed by Armenian irregulars fighting with the Russians during the war. Rummel estimates that those Armenians killed about 75,000 Turks.


For three years now the Armenian Assembly of America and the Armenian National Committee have tried to get President George W. Bush to recognize what happened in Turkey as "genocide." More than 168 members of Congress have also urged Bush to do this. Bush, in fact, had pledged to do so when he campaigned for president in 2000. But he has not kept that pledge. Every April 24 he fudges the language to not upset the Turkish government.


In this year's statement, Bush referred to the killing of the Armenians as a "tragedy" that just somehow happened.


No country wants genocide linked to its history. But facts are facts. And putting them all on the table can help set the record straight and provide people with information to help prevent genocide from happening again. Germany is forever stained because of the Holocaust. But no one blames today's Germans for what happened 60 years ago. And in Turkey's case, two postwar trials were held and the Young Turks' leaders were found guilty.


We can't pick and choose between crimes against humanity. We can't condemn Saddam Hussein and his regime and give other regimes a pass. Of course, we can't undo the past or raise the dead. But we can show leadership. We can recognize the Armenian genocide and talk about it truthfully. And we can teach our children about it. I think the Armenian children who died so many years ago would like that.

Michael Chapman, editorial director at the Cato Institute,, contributed this comment to The Moscow Times.

 Holdwater's June 26, 2003 response

(A note to the editor of The Moscow Times follows, at bottom)

Michael Chapman

Editorial Director

Cato Institute

Dear Mr. Chapman,

I've read "Armenian Genocide Lesson" at the Moscow Times.


I found it unsettling that the Editorial Director of the

distinguished Cato Institute... an organization I would have hoped

would be generally more open-minded than the general media... would be content to rely on only one version of this academically debated story. I believe there must have been certain factors involved for you to so freely deviate from what must no doubt be your typical journalistic integrity... I would imagine your deeply rooted belief system cannot allow you to consider that the Turks were anything but the evil, barbaric villains you apparently believe so fervently.

Do you agree the genuine, unbiased, neutral facts are the only matter of importance? I hope you value the truth, and can allow yourself to override your prejudices. If this is the case, allow me to point out where you have been so misled.

Have you made a study of this issue? I know you have. Exclusively from the Armenian perspective. How do I know this? Just run a search for the quotes you have felt so comfortable in using... they are omnipresent in the countless Armenian sites. For example, the "Armenian Quotes" page at is one of these many carbon-copy pages that you could have easily used to rely

upon your "evidence."

The page begins with a quote from Ataturk. It's cited as having been printed in August 1, 1926's The Los Angeles Examiner, so it must be true, right? Well, you are a journalist, and I know what you have written is awash with inaccuracies... so we know not everything that is printed is always true.

This particular source was written by a Swiss journalist of whom

there is no record in Switzerland... on a day where Ataturk's

schedule did not record any newspaper interview activity (neither did the days before or after)... and the final result was ignored in

Ataturk's major biographies. It is believed to be bogus. The second quote on this page is the famous one by the Armenians' favorite moral witness, Adolf Hitler. That particular quote could not be found in any record of the speech he gave in preparation of Germany's invasion of Poland, where the alleged Armenian reference was targeted against the Poles, and not the Jews. Scholars have studied the authenticity of this quote, and it is most likely the Fuehrer never uttered these words.

Now let's scroll down a little to the Enver Pasha quote you were so comfortable with using. No source is provided (at page bottom, Vahakn Dadrian is credited for "Most of the quotes of Turkish origin"... Mr. Dadrian is not what we would call an impartial academician; in his prosecutorial zeal, he has been known to distort the facts. Perhaps you should read some analyses of his scholarly merit, from one Professor Malcolm Yapp, for example) and common sense would dictate Enver Pasha would not have "publicly declared on 19 May 1916" to have come out with such a statement. (With anti-Turkish wartime propaganda running rampant, why would Enver politically come out with such a damaging statement, even if it were

true? Even Hitler did not publicize his "Final Solution" to

the German people.)

I do know the source of the next Enver Pasha quote; it is from "Ambassador Morgenthau's Story," a book that cannot be taken seriously by any truth-seeker, once one learns of the motivations of the source. The book was ghostwritten, its aim was to push America into the war, the ambassador was a bigot (Morgenthau believed the Turks had "inferior blood"), and quotation marks were freely used for conjured-up words.

You've written, "Jemal Pasha, Turkey's interior minister,

publicly admitted that '800,000 Armenian deportees were actually

killed.'" (HOLDWATER, later note: Talat Pasha was the Minister of the Interior, and Jemal Pasha was the "Minister of the

Marine"; just one more of the many inaccuracies in Michael Chapman's "Lesson.") Well, that's what it says on this Armenian

page... which a lesser experienced individual than yourself would be terribly naive to take at face value. (We're going to get to those

numbers momentarily, and realize this was yet another fake quote.) I wonder why this source is so absolutely believable for you.

(I don't really wonder why... I know the answer. You really don't

care to scratch beneath the surface.)

Most of the other quotes you present to make your case are

irrelevant. Gerald Ford? Yossi Bellin? Do you believe these men are historical experts? (Don't you remember what Ford said about the Soviet Union during his debate with Carter, probably costing him the election?) They only parrot the same sources so many are comfortable with, not unlike yourself. Because Ronald Reagan alludes to the Armenian Genocide does not prove

there was an extermination policy directed by the Ottoman state.

I'm familiar with Professor Rummel. In a section of his web site, he actually claims (or claimed, the last time I checked) 2,100,000

Armenians were killed. (HOLDWATER, later note: Prof. Rummel's statement, "Turkish dictators murdered about 2,100,000 Armenians" applies to the period from 1900 to 1923. Rummel gives credence to sources such as Dadrian, Housepian and Toynbee, during the latter's days as propagandist for Wellington House. The professor also apparently believes in the legitimacy of the Andonian-forged Talat Pasha telegrams, as well as the 1919 Ottoman and 1921 Tehlirian kangaroo courts, as he writes, "Then, two trials were held." How could he not acknowledge the most important trail that vindicated the Turks: Malta?) He also writes when he was a boy, he accepted

the stereotype of the "Jap." Unfortunately, as an adult, he

similarly accepts the stereotype of the Terrible Turk... and he's

obviously far from alone among Westerners, in this outlook. Almost all of his sources are Armenian or pro-Armenian.

Did you know over half a dozen "neutral" (non-Turkish,

non-Armenian... which still generally translates to pro-Armenian)

sources of the pre-World War I period estimated from 1.0 to 1.5

million Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire? (British historian

Arnold Toynbee, for example, claimed the total population of

Armenians living in Anatolia [The Armenians of the Ottoman Empire were mainly concentrated in Anatolia] was only 761,000.

["Nationality and the War," 1915.] When Toynbee was

recruited for Wellington House, the British propaganda arm, he

doubled this figure to 1.5 million in the following year's Blue

Book... a source subsequently discredited, but still referred to as

factual in Armenian web sites.) (HOLDWATER, later note: Toynbee gave the Armenian Patriarch's figure of 2,100,000 Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire credence in 1916's "The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire," only one year after he had figured 761,000.)

From Armenian leader Boghos Nubar to the Armenian Patriarch in 1921, to a 1998 Armenian proclamation that appeared in the New York Times, the Armenians claim one million Armenians survived. (That's what the Armenians claim, now; there were probably more.) Please do the subtraction from a median pre-war population figure of 1.3 million, to get a clearer picture of the number of Armenian casualties.

The result of Armenian dead is from ALL causes... not just massacres, but also famine, disease and combat; Richard Hovannisian himself estimated (in "Armenia[n] on the Road to Independence," 1967, p. 67) that some 150,000 Armenians died of famine while and after accompanying the Russian retreat.

Just as Professor Rummel's figure of 1.4 million to 2.1 million dead Armenians is an impossibility (this is what you get for relying on strictly pro-Armenian sources; more dead people than existed at the time), so is his figure for the 75,000 Turks killed by the Armenian irregulars. Perhaps Rummel was referring only to Turkish soldiers? What is often tragically overlooked in this debate are the defenseless Turkish villagers systematically eliminated by the Armenians. A British colonel, for example, reported that the Armenians "massacred between 300,000 and 400,000 Kurdish Muslims in the Van and Bitlis districts." (12.9.1919, U.S. Archives 184.021/265) The anti-Turkish 1968 book "The Kurds" reports the Armenians killed 600,000 Kurds. Documented Ottoman archives have settled on a figure of around 520,000 Turks/Muslims murdered, directly at the hands of the Armenians. (2.5 to 3 million Turks died from all causes.)

Have you come across the American report of Niles and Sutherland? They went in, totally sympathetic with the Armenians, which you can identify with... and they came out reporting the Armenians were the ones with their hands truthfully bloody. (Their report was suppressed, by General Harbourd.) Have you read the Bristol Papers? (American Ambassador Bristol looked at the situation even-handedly, and is often ignored.)

It appears more Armenians massacred Turks than the other way around; furthermore, there is much clearer evidence that the Armenians acted systematically, making their crimes more genocidal in impact. The Jewish Times agreed in its June 21, 1990 opinion:

"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the

systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of the

independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."

I guess since you never looked into this issue seriously, you were

evidently never aware of this other side of the coin. Perhaps you

dismissed it... since so many who share your biased perspective don't consider Turkish lives as meaningful as Armenian ones.

Consider the weightiness of this matter. Perhaps you are aware the imperialist powers conducted secret treaties to divvy up the spoils of the Ottoman Empire, even before the war began. Great Britain's Lloyd George was at the head of this movement to basically wipe Turkey off the face of the earth. As unfair as the Versailles Treaty was for Germany (in school, I was taught this treaty was so revengefully misguided, it paved the way for Hitler's rise)... the Germans had a picnic, compared to the Turks. The Turks would have their right of self-determination taken away from them.

Under this atmosphere, with Great Britain far removed as a friend to the Turks as a nation can get, the "Nuremberg" of World War

I began, in the form of the Malta War Crimes Tribunal. A team of

Armenian researchers headed the search for genocidal evidence, during a period that lasted over two years... with every Ottoman document available under Allied occupation, before the Turks had a chance to "purge" anything, as Armenian prosecutor Vahakn Dadrian loves to claim (among others of his ilk).

Every single one of the Ottoman officials was free to go, at the end. Amazing. Why would any reasonable person still even consider the possibility of an Ottoman-directed genocidal policy today?

Let's review sources for the "evidence" from your perspective; the following are what can be found in the multitude of what you enjoy exclusively considering, the Armenian web sites:

1) Armenian Oral History

2) The missionaries

3) Ambassador Morgenthau and his band of consuls

4) The German wing, including Lepsius and Armin Wegner

5) A multitude of press accounts, particularly from the prestigious

New York Times

6) Bryce, Toynbee and the Wellington House reports

7) The Hitler Quote

8) Franz Werfel's "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh," and the

Andonian telegrams

9) Pronouncements from the 1919 Ottoman kangaroo courts

If you can bring yourself to objectively assess each and every item

above (you will have to spend the time to seriously study this topic, and not just rely on dubious quotes from an Armenian web site), you will find you might as well go to a White Supremacist source to get an accurate portrayal of blacks.

"Facts are facts," you write. Yes. But first you have to

get the REAL facts. You are being unfair and journalistically

unprofessional by solely relying on one side of the story. For

various reasons, it has become acceptable — almost de rigueur — to express anti-Turkish sentiments without being accused of bias or even racism. However, why should anyone of integrity feel comfortable about jumping on such a bandwagon?

It is not "denial"... which connotes intending to be

dishonest and to cover up... to say the Armenian "Genocide"

is "as bogus as a three-dollar bill," as Christian scholar

Samuel Weems has written. If "facts are facts," the real

fact is, the Armenian "Genocide" has yet to be proven.

Massacres occurred when the Armenians revolted. If anything, the

documents and telegrams of the period show sensitivity toward the Armenians, when the "Sick Man of Europe" was in a life and

death struggle, with mighty enemies at multiple fronts. There is

NOTHING that proves there was a state-sponsored policy of

extermination, and anyone who relies on strictly Armenian sources.... rampant with forgeries and falsifications... is either gullible, racist, or has some sort of agenda.

If you are a genuine truth-seeker and feel you can get over your

brainwashing, before you have the audacity to give Armenian genocide "lessons" on a subject you have obviously not bothered to investigate fully, I invite you to pay a visit to my site utilizing

mainly impartial sources. It is my contention no Westerner has grown up with a positive image of the Turks... thus, when they speak for the Turks, they are not being "pro-Turk" (as the Armenians and their bedfellows have tried to discredit anyone who displays any even-handedness, such as the ignored American Ambassador, Mark Bristol), but... pro-Truth.



A note to the editor of The Moscow Times, to whom a copy of this

letter is being directed: don't forget, it was Czar Nicholas who

instigated the Armenians. Your forefathers were allied with the

Armenians, and some were criminally responsible in ethnically

cleansing the Ottoman civilian population... in their continuation of

the policy of your nation at the time. (Other Russians, on the other

hand, were disgusted by the Armenians' inhuman atrocities, and

several served as genuine eyewitnesses... including

Lieutenant-Colonel Griaznoff/Griyaznof, General L. Odishe Liyetze, Commander-in-Chief Odichelidze, General Nikolayef, and the diary of Lieutenant-Colonel Tverdokhleboff). Not a single Armenian would have been harmed by the Turks, both people having co-existed for some seven centuries, had the Russians not used the Armenians as pawns. If the Moscow Times chooses to voice an opinion as misguided and biased as Michael Chapman's, I believe your publication should be especially

and ethically obligated to run a counter-point.