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In early 2005, I had written an essay entitled, "The Creationism of the Armenian Genocide," exploring how the politics, obsession and wealth of both the genocidists and the Creationists (or their "scientific" successors, the Intelligent Designers) affect society's acceptance of a version of events that has little to do with the truth. After watching an excellent (and refreshingly fair; the gentleness of the evolutionist filmmaker, Randy Olson, could readily be seen) documentary entitled "Flock of Dodos" (2006), I came to understand how the contra-genocide side, disturbingly, also shares traits with the Intelligent Designers. The reasons for the similarities boil down to this: In the Evolution vs. Creationism and/or Intelligent Design debate, the evolution perspective remains the common wisdom. In the Armenian genocide vs. not a genocide debate, the contra-genocide view has never been widely accepted, because since the days of WWI, the age-old prejudice against Turks and the relentless, one-sided propaganda of the Turk-haters has caused lazy-thinking Westerners to automatically accept the hateful views of the propagandists.

 

Let's explore these parallels in greater depth, using the revelations of the documentary as a guide. (The reader is reminded that the documentary has a point-of-view, a view that I happen to share. One must be wary of accepting every claim at face value, and the necessary research has not been conducted here to verify the film’s claims.) The power of the religious right (in the case of the USA), able to chip away at the separation between church and state, is not a problem peculiar to the United States. Now that the Islamists are gaining greater power in Turkey, the principles of Darwin are being attacked in Turkish schools, as well.

  

 

Here's a look at the background of the evolutionary wars:

 

The documentary begins by explaining the first phase of the "Evolutionary Wars" took place in 1999-2000, when Creationism was unleashed in force. The second phase began in 2004, when the forces behind Creationism realized fire and brimstone could only go so far, and a more "scientific" solution was called for, named "Intelligent Design."

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In 1860, the religious forces were dealt a crushing blow when "Darwin's Bulldog," Thomas Henry Huxley, took on Bishop "Soapy Sam" Wilberforce, in a clash sponsored by the Oxford Debating Society. When Scopes, a science teacher, was convicted for teaching evolution in a sleepy Tennessean town, Clarence Darrow made a monkey out of William Jennings Brian in the Scopes Monkey Trial (1925), as those who recall "Inherit the Wind" may attest.

From a newsreel: the 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial

However, the film does not tell us Scopes was convicted in this kangaroo court; his conviction was later overturned on a technicality. We have had "genocide" counterparts of such show trials, as in the cases of Prof. Bernard Lewis in France, and Dogu Perincek in Switzerland. The forces of politics and prejudice are so powerful in the case of genocide, these men had to be found guilty, regardless of the evidence. (In Lewis' case, the court irresponsibly refused to consider history, yet still threw out three of the four cases, and in the remaining case, the court ordered Lewis to pay one franc each to the two plaintiffs, and a contribution to the plaintiffs' court costs. In Perincek's case, the biased judge turned a complete blind eye to the irrefutable evidence presented, including Russian documents, fining the defendant thousands of dollars.)

 

150 years after Darwin's "Origin of the Species" was published, Americans are still not overwhelmingly convinced; 35% believe evolution is supported by the evidence, another 35% dismiss evolution as one of many theories, and 29% don't know. (And as Olson wittily points out, leaving 1% of the poll unaccounted for.)

"The neat part about this country is you can

agree to disagree," remarked a conservative

Christian from Kansas, whom Olson interviewed.

A necessity of civilization and freedom that some

European nations, as France, Switzerland and

Austria, have forgotten.

Dr. Michael Behe

The chief scientist the forces of Intelligent Design call upon is Dr. Michael Behe, a biochemist at Lehigh University, and author of 1995's Darwin's Black Box. His favorite way of explaining Intelligent Design, making it comprehensible to the dumber ones among us, is this: If you were to ask how the Rocky Mountains got there, the answer would be along the lines of a geological process, erosion or some such thing. But Mount Rushmore? Someone carved that, allowing us to detect the effects of intelligent activity. Intelligent Design detects effects of intelligence in life.

John Denver

(Later in the film, when a pastor from a Pennsylvanian school board drives home the same point, it's amusing when the filmmaker keeps reminding the pastor that it was humans who carved Mount Rushmore. But I am now thinking of another flaw in this analogy. Since God gets the credit for creating everything, and as much as John Denver got a high out of them, what is so intelligent about the Rocky Mountains?)


But Olson is ahead of the game, as he next presents a few scientific testimonials demonstrating the lack of "Intelligent Design." (This is the great thing about filming a documentary to push one's point-of-view. One always has the power to make a fool of the other camp. A delirious example is Andrew Goldberg's PBS-sponsored "Armenian Genocide" propaganda show, where even the rare truth allowed to slip through — the testimony of Gunduz Aktan explaining why there could have been no genocide — was allowed to be called "garbage" by Ara Sarafian. In this case, however, anyone taking the trouble to scratch a little more deeply beneath the easy surface could see where the real garbage lay.) And so we have a professor explaining that the human heart comes from the reptilian heart, which comes from the fish heart, containing only one measly coronary artery, leading to poor circulation and great vulnerability; and an animated Dr. James Hanken explains the shortcomings of the digestive systems of cows and horses, but it's the rabbit who gets the grand prize for unintelligent design; the rodent's food travels past its stomach & intestines, the matter is excreted, and it is at this point that the rabbit eats the nutritious (and non-fecal) excretion, allowing the matter to finally go through the intestines. (Hanken does concede cases of Intelligent Design, as with the eye, but exclaims that for every one case of such intelligence, there are ten cases of unintelligence.)

 

 

After Dr. Behe states that Intelligent Design is not a religion, no more than Mount Rushmore's design is a religious conclusion, he stresses that Intelligent Design is based on physical evidence. Film Director Olson then took the opportunity to ask Dr. David Bottier (University of Southern California) whether evolution could be considered a religion. Part of the professor's response was, "I think of science as something that is continually changing, whereas religion is something that is fixed in its ideas."

 

Now is that not a beautiful parallel to the genocide debate. The genocidists are banking on the perspective of Turks as subhuman creatures, prone to commit violence, and thus, of course, the poor, helpless, innocent and Christian Armenians were subjected to the Terrible Turks' extermination policy. They have no factual evidence, all of their evidence derives from hearsay and forgeries, but it really does not matter; their belief is a religious belief, based primarily upon prejudice. Note the bigoted genocidists almost never refer to the Turks and others who suffered in droves of the same non-murderous causes (famine, disease) that claimed the lives of most Armenians, and they certainly ignore completely the hundreds of thousands of Turks and others that their "innocent" Armenians systematically killed.

 

And who can argue with the statement of "science as something that is continually changing"? That is true of any science; when new and better information comes along, it is the duty of a true scientist to reject the old notions and to acknowledge the more valid facts. (As much as it hurts our ingrained belief systems to do so; who wants to stop thinking of Pluto as a planet, for example?) In other words, "revisionism" goes with the business of science, history and of scholarship in general. Now, the genocidists use that word with disdain when they attack the real historical facts, implying that the revisionist's goal is always to dishonestly engage in manipulation, in order to challenge the old notion that, to the genocidists, must remain "fixed in its ideas." All the genocidists wind up doing, by countering the character of their challengers instead of countering the facts of their challengers with BETTER facts, is prove what poor scholars and charlatans the genocidists really are. (They are also neglecting the fact that they are the real "revisionists." After WWI, Armenian leaders were not stressing "genocide," but bragging about their belligerence and treacherous alliance with the Allies.)

 

The film reviews the concept of evolution, its central idea resting in the mechanism of change through Natural Selection: When the environment changes, species must change along with it, in order to survive. As an example, the dodo became extinct because people brought cats and dogs into the island the dodos inhabited, endangering the eggs of the dodo. (I always thought the Europeans who came in recklessly killed the dodo for food, and the flightless bird was a sitting duck; yet a professor on the program claimed the dodo apparently did not taste very good.) Skeletons of animals are examined to demonstrate "Adaptation"; the teeth in skulls serve as one example, and the pelvic bones in sperm whales, left over by their legged ancestors.

 

Interestingly, we are informed that Intelligent Design experts mostly accept the evidence for evolution, such as the

earth's being 4.6 billion years old (Biblical believers, by contrast, go for a life span of around 6,000 years), and that over 90% of human DNA is shared with chimps. In other words, the Intelligent Designers have truly made sure to distance themselves from the the non-scientific ideas of Creationists, and the core of their concept rests with "Irreducible Complexity," the idea that some structures and organisms are so complex that there is no way evolution alone could have created them. There had to be something else at work, an intelligent designer guiding it all.


We next get into the stage of teaching evolution in the classroom, a most relevant parallel with the genocide debate. Once impressionable youngsters are taught the myth of the Armenian genocide in American classrooms, they learn that Turks were no better than the Nazis, breeding the racism that hateful Armenian extremists would love to share with the rest of humanity.


The film tells us that the evolutionists say there is only one thing to teach in biology class, evolution. It's science and involves only natural explanations as to how species originated and changed over time. Their Intelligent Design opponents counter, however, that evolution has flaws, and there are many other equally viable explanations; all of which add up to what they feel is a controversy, and their message is to "teach the controversy."



Director Olson regrets that Behe has no evolution counterpart, a champion who goes around fighting for evolution in conferences and the like. A former educator of his, Steven Jay Gould, was one, but he died in 2002.

Dr. John Angus

Here's a big parallel with the genocide world. The Intelligent Designers have the obsession and the money to arrange conferences (and to utilize other tactics such as influencing school boards, manipulating the media, and so forth) to spread the word. Nobody from the opposing team is present in these conferences (by film's end, we learn there is one evolutionist who attends such conferences, but it turns out he is really on the Intelligent Designers' team. [Dr. John Angus, a senior fellow with the Discovery Institute.] Sneaky!), and the reason given is that there are no evolutionists who care to attend these conferences, because Intelligent Design is not real science.


Similarly, don't we know that the genocide industry gives closed door genocide conferences all the time, preaching their hateful agendas to the rest of the lazy-thinking world; these forces have the obsession and deep pockets to do so, and even if contra-genocide specialists wished to attend such conferences, they would not be allowed to. The genocidists are aware the factual content of their propaganda is so fragile, it wouldn't take much to create doubt in the minds of those the genocidists hope to corrupt. This is why the genocidists concentrate on the ad hominem attacks they frequently engage in, hoping to damage the credibility of the true scientists and historians who know there was no Armenian genocide. As a result, there are very few historians who wish to enter this debate, with the knowledge that such dangerous and unscrupulous people can harm the historians' precious reputations. This is the downside of being the underdog; the ones in power write the rules. If the evolution debate was such that Intelligent Designers had the upper hand, you can bet the people in charge would be behaving similarly, engaged in underhanded tactics such as calling the evolutionists "deniers," and attempting to reduce them to the level of crackpots. (During "Evolutionary Wars I," when they were Creationists, they somewhat went this route, telling the evolutionists that they are destined for Hell; but this strategy did not go far, and that is why they've toned down their fanatical attitude, and are now focusing on pseudo-science.)

 
The passionate evolutionist.

Director Olson presents a round-table discussion of poker playing evolutionists, eight sharing evolution Ph.D.'s. The most passionate of these unnamed men declares that Intelligent Design is "mendacity" (meaning the tendency to be untruthful, a word more than valid for the Armenian genocidists), adding that Intelligent Design is a movement by and for lawyers. He proceeds to make fun of their principles, for example, by throwing the question at them, "Who is that intelligent agent?" with the answer boiling down to "I don't know." (Yet in the documentary, several believers, from a conservative Republican school board member to Dr. Behe himself, make no bones about identifying the agent; that would be God, of course. In the case of Behe, it's ironic, because he initially went to great lengths explaining that there is no religion in Intelligent Design.)

 

One of them says, "I really think part of it is rhetorical and we should stop talking about the theory of evolution and we should start talking about the fact of evolution, because evolution is a fact."

 

In other words, get aggressive, and stop dilly-dallying around. Similarly, contra-genocidists should stop being constantly on the defensive, explaining through fact after fact after fact why there was no Armenian genocide (because the religious-minded are simply irrational, and the facts are next-to- meaningless), and start concentrating on the reality that it was the Armenians who engaged in the true systematic extermination policy, when they held regions of Eastern Anatolia on and off between 1915-1920, with and without their Russian allies, and a portion of Southeastern Anatolia after the war, with their French allies. The Armenians engaged in what was the real genocide, conforming to the rules of the 1948 U.N. Genocide Convention. (Their defenseless victims — since the Turkish men were away, fighting the war — were targeted for no other reason than for being who they were, not fitting in with the Christian-Armenian prototype, as the "as such" requirement of the Convention's Article II requires; these victims were not fighting back, and did not form a political group; meanwhile, the "intent" factor to exterminate is there for all to see, from the testimonies of their Russian and French allies, for one, as well as the 1919 report of Armenian-sympathizers Niles and Sutherland, for another, as well as internal Ottoman reports. By contrast, the evidence for "Armenian genocide" derives from hearsay and forgeries. In the rare case where a U.S. consul witnessed corpses, he could not even connect the killers with the Ottoman government.)

 

Olson compares the evolutionary wars to a prize fight. In one corner, "weighing in with 150 years of knowledge," is the

champion, evolution. In the other corner is the Intelligent Design movement, "which momentarily seems to have the upper hand." At least the side representing "mendacity" in this case needs to fight its way from the bottom, which is far better than when the dishonest, harmful and fanatical forces have the upper hand, counting on unthinking political correctness, and freely using underhanded tactics to retain their claim to the throne. At the moment, the "genocide war" is not even a match, a fact that should be of great concern to everyone who values the truth.

 

Olson wonders, "Scientists alone are not enough to create a social movement. Who was behind the promoting of Intelligent Design in our society?" One name kept cropping up, that of John Calvert, a geologist and attorney who had taken on Intelligent Design as his life's mission, traveling the country to promote and defend the concept. We also meet the conservative author and filmmaker, Jack Cashill, who discusses the situation in Kansas (i.e., the way the Kansas school board handled the issue), terming Darwin a "borderline hoax," and emphasizing that the anti-Darwin movement has been taken over from the Creationists, by agnostics and non-religious people. (Cashill was so sharp and engaging, if Olson were to devote more screen time on the man, I suspect a lot of evolution-minded folks would have been second-guessing themselves.)


(However, here is a good example of why we must always remain on guard regarding things that we are told, that is, we must try to  maintain a healthy skepticism. When Cashill reported that the Anti-Darwin movement had been taken away from Creationists by agnostics and non-religious people, of course I paid attention. Obviously non-religious people will have much less of a conflict-of-interest, and if they are saying Intelligent Design has merit, then I would listen more attentively to such people. On the other hand, Is that an accurate statement? Perhaps there are a couple of people like that, but who are they? Even the ones featured in this film who tried to come across as non-religious, as Dr. Behe himself, admitted later that God is their man. If non-religious people are looking into Intelligent Design as genuine science, then who becomes the creator of this Intelligent Design? Martians? Klingons, perhaps? It is logical that the only contender could be God, and if these agnostics or non-religious people give God the credit, then it would be difficult to see them as agnostics or non-religious people.)


(That is to say, since the human mind is too limited to know for sure the answers to how the universe was created, it is possible to allow for the existence of a supreme entity, without being religious. But if these "agnostics and non-religious people" actively support the hand of God by going on record about how great Intelligent Design is, instead of passively allowing for the possibility that, who knows, maybe there is a God, then they would stop being agnostics and non-religious people.)

Sue Gamble, Kansas school board

The realists on the Kansas School Board had been outvoted on almost every issue by the six member conservative Republican majority. (A majority member admits that the Kansas Republican Assembly, representing the far right wing of the Republicans, helped raise the funds for her election.) One admirable woman, Sue Gamble, described as a "moderate Republican" on the school board, made very insightful comments throughout the film; she was troubled, at this point of the production, by the majority board members "trying to interject concepts into the science standards that would have explanations other than the natural one."


One of the poker-playing evolutionists commented, "All these matters speak to truth in government and transparency in government and when you can compromise the truth in textbooks, through quasi-governmental bodies like the school board or when you can quash government reports, it all leads to the same place, it leads to a breakdown of democracy." And isn't that the truth! That's what the lawsuit still brewing in Massachusetts boils down to: why is the Massachusetts school board censoring the contra-genocide standpoint, the one in keeping with historical facts, and not hateful propaganda?


And this is a point where the contra-genocide perspective comes more in line with the Intelligent Designers; the genocidists have succeeded so wildly with their falsehoods, thanks to their immense power, prejudice and propaganda (along with Turkish apathy), now the historical truth (that there was really no Ottoman extermination plan against Armenians) has become a "controversy." And this is the ace-in-the-hole of the Intelligent Designers. They are saying, since there is more than one view on evolution, why not "teach the controversy," as Jack Cashill is shown to be urging. This is the way the Intelligent Designers can sneak in their Godly non-science, you see, crashing through that separation of church and state.


Interesting dilemma, isn't it? On one hand, we have the principles of Darwin, which is much more than a mere theory at this stage of the game, representing the real science. If the nonsense of Intelligent Design is introduced into the classrooms, in order to be fair to the religious-minded, then a great disservice would be committed toward the concept of education, helping to corrupt the minds of the students. On the other hand, there are reasonable people who don't come from the perspective of religious fanaticism, as Cashill struck me (at least from the things he was stating onscreen; it could have been a front to disarm the critics of Intelligent Design, just as the religious administration of Turkey claims they are for secularism, but once in power, try to sneak in their religious agenda), and could genuinely believe in Intelligent Design as a "science."

 

 

But in the long run, simply because these folks are mistaken (or even deluded), innocently or not, and believe in a version of events, does not mean alternative views must always find a place in the classroom. This is why we must rely on honorable people without agendas to ensure that the truth, and nothing but the truth, must be taught our children.

Dr. Steve Case: A smart guy

As one of these professionals tell us later in the film (this would be Dr. Steve Case; the ten member school board in Kansas approves standards of teaching for the state, but someone has to write these standards. Dr. Case serves as chairman of the writing committee), "Intelligent Design opens the doorway a little bit by changing the nature of science, establishing a supernatural foundation." Dr. Case continues:

 

"The theology that these guys are promoting is a really destructive theology... where God lives in the gaps of our understanding, and irreducible complexity is a beautiful example of that. They say that the universe is so complex, that we cannot understand it. So the question a kid is going to have is, well, why would we do science? If we're not going to get it anyway, what a waste of time. But, you know, the thing is, for a child then to adopt that theology, that means the more you learn, the smaller God gets. Because He's in where we don't understand. Well, that means we are setting kids up to be anti-intellectual, or have a crisis of faith where they reject their faith. Neither one of those things should be going on in a public school, that's not what we do."

 

 

The problem is, of course, what happens when the elected leaders' first consideration is not the truth, but their own warped agendas, or religious beliefs? When this takes place in the form of the teaching of the "Armenian genocide," the repercussions are far from innocent. When school board members, as in the cases of those from the Los Angeles school district or in the cities of Massachusetts, give credence to this genocide mythology, because of the board members' own prejudices, or because they feel it is the politically correct thing to do, or because they are influenced or pressured by the Armenian activists among them... and they forget their duty to examine all sides of the story to arrive at an objective and truthful conclusion... then the children walk away with the belief that a certain branch of humanity has it in them to be monsters. Furthermore, when this certain branch of humanity is singled out, and other human branches are never touched (note that the hypocritical school boards don't feel the responsibility to give equal time to all the many other historical examples of "Man's Inhumanity to Man," save for the politically chosen few), then the license is provided to feel hatred all the more, toward the designated villains.

 

So what do you think happens when activist Armenians make a point of

hitting school boards, as the one from Kansas above... particularly when

the Armenians present their "genocide" arguments unchallenged, since

Turkish-Americans are often in their own worlds, and are unaware of

such meetings? School board members don't even need to be so devoutly

Christian to sympathize with the poor, innocent Armenians at the hands of

the brutal Turks, suckered in as they are to do the politically right thing, feeling

it is their duty to teach students about "human rights," and of the evilness of

genocides. Such board members rarely consider that there may be another

side to the story, and that they serve as accomplices to promote hatred

and racism. (Unless the meeting is the extremely rare one where Turks attend;

and board members have the honor to consider the actual facts, as occurred

in 1999 Wisconsin.)

The forces for evolution boycotted the Kansas hearings in 1999, sending one lawyer against twenty-five Intelligent Design experts; Cashill opined the lawyer was "obnoxious." Here again, the forces of Intelligent Design represented the side of the underdog, on similar plane as the contra-genocide perspective of the genocide debate. Deborah Lipstadt is outraged that she should even acknowledge what Holocaust deniers have to say, and it is hard not to sympathize, because we all know the Holocaust definitely took place.

Deborah Lipstadt.

However, it's one thing when her opponents are looney Sieg-Heil'ing types, and another if they are legitimate historians with track records who have objections (for whatever reasons; maybe they are anti-Semitic, but maybe they're not). If Deborah Lipstadt is certain of her facts, then as distasteful as she might find doing so, she must let her facts speak for themselves. The worst thing Lipstadt and her "genocide scholar" ilk can do is go after the character of her "legitimate" opponents, and encourage (indirectly, in Lipstadt's case; she was not in favor of the idea, but her efforts encouraged such a result) their imprisonment (as what happened with David Irving in Austria). We may not like what the other guys say, but we must defend their right to say it. Otherwise, tomorrow, the ones getting censored and threatened with imprisonment could be us.


Here is the great damage caused by the "I'm not going to discuss your notion that there is no Holocaust, you're crazy" crowd characterized by Lipstadt and company. The unscrupulous Dashnak "end-justifies-the-means" Armenian extremists noticed their opportunity to take advantage of the strategy, and attempted to liken their phony genocide with the Holocaust, just so they can cash in on the idea of dismissing the honorable historians as neo-Nazi types, in order to stifle the debate they know will expose their false version of history. (Peter Balakian cleverly went this route, and actually placed Justin McCarthy in the same category as a "white supremacist"; similarly, Harut Sassounian aided in forcing an editor out of The Los Angeles Times, by implying the editor was somehow linked with the distinguished historian, Andrew Mango, whom Sassounian wrote was like "David Irving, the infamous Holocaust revisionist.") And Jewish Holocaust scholars sadly go along for the ride, because they have their own Holocaust agendas, and irrationally fear that telling the truth about the Armenians will cast doubt upon the Holocaust. (David A. Harris, the Executive Director of the American Jewish Committee, wrote in his "Truth and Consequences: Armenians, Turks and Jews" essay of August 21, 2007 that digging in to the truth of the Armenian matter “does not bode well for those who would oppose Holocaust denial,” echoing Kenneth Stern's words.) But if the Holocaust scholars are going to be untruthful about the Armenians, what else are they being untruthful about? Don't they realize they are endangering the credibility of the Holocaust?

Spencer Tracy vs. Fredric March in Inherit the Wind

It seems to me that if a real scientist goes up against an Intelligent Designer, the Intelligent Designer would stand no chance. (Think of the scene in "Inherit the Wind," where Spencer Tracy's  character — based on Clarence Darrow — completely pulverized his opponent, by showcasing the inconsistencies of the unscientific Bible.) Similarly, if a Holocaust believer goes up against a Holocaust denier, the latter will not stand a chance either, as Lipstadt demonstrated in her court battle with David Irving. (I believe Irving finally had to concede, in face of the overwhelming evidence, that yes, there was a Holocaust.... which makes one wonder why he got imprisoned by the Austrians. On the other hand, because the conclusion is correct does not mean everything said about the Holocaust is necessarily correct, especially when the genocide field has become so disgustingly politicized; the reason why Holocaust scholars wish to stifle debate very likely has to do with their desire to not have anything questioned *, which would certainly not be in keeping with true scholarship.)

( * As an example, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum has revised the figure of WWII's Jewish mortality down to a median of 5.25 million; holocaust scholars should know better than to keep repeating six million.)

 

 

Everything should be up for intellectual (as opposed to "hate language") discussion, and censorship should never be encouraged. And (unless they are out of their minds) even, or perhaps especially, when the opponent is a racist. Look at the Armenian genocide theorists... men such as Morgenthau, Bryce, Lepsius, Theodore Roosevelt... who among them is not an anti-Turkish  racist? That does not necessarily mean everything they say is invalid, however; nor does it mean that the invalid things they do say should not be addressed, particularly when Armenian genocide evaluators give credence to these people.

 

If people are wrong, their lack of facts will let them down. As the passionate poker-playing evolutionist put it, after expressing his contempt for the "Yahoos" and "ignoramuses" interfering with public education: "One should never mock one's religious beliefs... but when... they start saying things that are manifestly wrong, that are manifestly ignorant, I think people ought to stand up and say, 'You're an idiot.'" Now you just know when this professor goes up against an Intelligent Designer, he is likely going to make mincemeat out of the Intelligent Designer. Similarly, if an educated contra-genocider goes up against a "genocide scholar," you know the latter is not going to stand a chance. The difference is, the evolutionist professor seems too contemptuous of the Intelligent Designer to even want to debate, whereas the genocide scholar capitalizes on the Deborah Lipstadt type of contempt reserved for Holocaust deniers, in the case of the Armenians; this is done so that the chances of the genocide scholar to land in an embarrassing debate will be minimized. The Armenian Genocidist simply does not possess the legitimate facts, and therefore the Armenian Genocidist must avoid debate at all costs, in the preservation of his/her dishonest agenda; otherwise, the Armenian Genocidist will run the risk of appearing as the "idiot" he or she really is. (Here's an example of a clash between two specialists in both camps; note how amateurish the Armenian Genocidist comes across as, in scholarly comparison. For good measure, here is another example. To try and come out on top, the genocidists kept lying through their teeth.)

 

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