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AGHET   Part I : Subtitles & Comments by Sukru S. Aya  (For more refer to above link)

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00:00:07 The Turkish government is convinced that the Armenians never underwent a genocide

R: What legal court’s verdict convinced you that Armenians underwent GENOCIDE?

00:00:18 For nine decades, they deny that it never it happened

R: What legally valid documentation you can show that it ever happened?

00:00:23 It’s shocking. We have no problem recognizing the Genocides in Darfur, Kambodscha, Rhuanda or the Holocaust

R: Sure, Holocaust is the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal. Recognition of rumors for the most serious crime “genocide” is nothing more than LYNCHING!

00:00:32 Why is it only this Genocide?

R: Because it has no evidence, no process, no defense, no legal verdict!

00:00:37 It is incredible that the Noble Prize recipient Orhan Pamuk should risk 3 years in prison for only starting discussion on this subject

R: Historical truths cannot be asserted by “novel writers” who do not have the faintest knowledge on this subject, but uttered to be awarded with Nobel!

00:00:51 [Bernard-Henri Lévy] They deny facts, they erase their traces, they deceive.

R: Who erased what, when, how? Why must innocents accept LIES for FACTS?

00:01:06 [Cem Özdemir, Politician] This is the last big taboo of Turkish politics. It shows that the governing people are afraid that their population could learn about these facts.

R: Ask Cem Ozdemir what is the “source” of his “idea which is WRONG”? Did he ever read Liman von Sanders, Von Schellendorf newspaper articles or ever saw the secret agreement of Aug.2,1915 by which GERMANS WERE COMMANDER IN CHIEF of OTTOMAN ARMIES and it is them that ENFORCED THESE MEASURES?

00:01:20 [R.T. Erdoğan - Turkish PM] Something like a genocide is foreign to our society. It is not ever possible that we recognize it

R: True!  Hundreds of foreign documents prove the ARMENIAN refined cruelties!

00:01:30 [US President Obama] For all those who are not conscious of it, the genocide of the Armenian people has happened.

R: Did anyone show Obama the US Senate Near East Relief report dt. 22.04.1922  or US Senate Doc.151, Nov. 19, 1919 or Nat. Archive Doc. 184.021/175 proving the very opposite or US Documents or League of Nations decree 21.9.1929?

00:01:37 At a debate in the US Congress an important ally, viz. Bush, is up in arms.

R: Did you ask US Congress if they ever knew these documents plus many others?

00:01:46 It is the height of hypocrisy not to recognize the genocide of the Armenians just because an ally of the US doesn’t like it to be mentioned.

R: Height of indecency is to name a LIE produced in 1960s (after the NAZI Armenian troops were accepted in USA as “displaced persons”)! This is some accusation that had no “reason, time, place, numbers, murder tools, stadium size graveyards, neutral eye witnesses, documents, legal investigation or any documentary debate as GENOCIDE!” It is a HUGE PALAVER or distortion!

00:01:56 [TV anchor] The White House fears Turkish reactions that could destabilize Iraq

 

[Title]  AGHET

00:02:09 A Genocide.

R: These are new scenarios. Regrettably even Turks do not know the multitude of foreign documents, apart from thousands in Turkish archives.

 

00:02:15 Hrant Dink, one of the best-known journalists for the Armenian minority, was murdered in cold blood in front of his Newspaper office.

R: More than 100.000 Turks marched on streets protesting this murder by a 17 year old fanatic and he is on trial! But why the films makers make no mention that more than 42 Turkish diplomats, overall 70 innocent persons were killed in more than 250 acts of terror by ASALA and that all of them are treated as heroes!

00:02:37 On 1/19/2007 the Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink was murdered in cold blood in the street of İstanbul.

00:02:46 The offender, a 17 year-old, tries to justify the murder by stating that Dink had offended the honor of Turkey. The murderer has not been convicted yet.

R: The murderer is in prison, loathed by all Turks, but Armenian killers are in top positions as heroes.

00:03:01 A Pandora’s Box was opened in Turkey because Dink had the courage to speak of genocide.

R: This is wrong! Dink did not propagate genocide; on the contrary he was saying that “this is a matter between Turks and Armenians to settle”. He was killed because he said that “the dirty Turkish blood in veins will be changed with clean Armenian blood”. If he had spoken of blood’s Rh, nothing would have happened!

00:03:17 Over and over Dink has called attention to the Genocide in which more than one million Armenians has murdered

R: Wrong again. To kill 1 million persons in about 100 days of relocation, you must kill 10.000 every day and bury them in hand dug stadium size graveyards! Where are the graveyards or corpses? Not even Hitler could kill 10.000/day in camps!

00:03:24 A Genocide, which Turkey denies for 95 years and its mentioning, is a punishable offense

R: Lie! All books praising genocide by Turkish or foreign writers, sell freely in most bookstores; they are amply available to all readers!

00:03:31 Many Turks are accused of this. Dink, too, was dragged before the court many times.

R: Wrong! You are sent to court if you speak-write-slander-insult-disgrace persons without evidence! Dink was tried for “insulting” and he was found “not guilty”!

00:03:37 [Delal Dink, Hrant Dink's daughter]: He always said: “Don’t assume that they are denying the facts. What they are denying is something about which they don’t know anything.

R: Dink had not read the Armenian and other documents which I read and base my books. His daughter is too young to have read and learned hundreds of thousands pages!

00:03:47 So he started telling them what happened

00:03:51 He would say: “What I want isn’t for the politicians to acknowledge it. I want the entire population to know what happened and who did it; because I want to know that it will not happen again”.

R: I do not remember any such provocative statement from Dink! I demand proof!

00:04:05 Since Dink’s murder an increasing number of people are requesting an open discussion of the genocide

R: Yes, but they do not come to our conferences nor accept us in theirs!

00:04:12 But the overwhelming majority of the population, though, is influenced by the official Turkish history making and sticks to the officially propagandized government version.

R: I defend what I have “referenced and documented from anti-Turkish or neutral sources”. The “officials have Turkish and Russian documents”. I speak based on Armenian-German-American-British-French-Russian and OFFICIAL documents plus hundreds of newspaper clips or excerpts! I have no ties with any organization!

00:04:23 [Cemil Çiçek, Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey]: When you talk about genocide, this is the most serious calumny that one can ever bring against a nation.

00:04:31 We, the Turkish people will never accept such a charge. We have the cleanest past. No one has the right to make such accusation against us.

R: Yes, he speaks the truth. Why any one should have the right to make such base accusations without any LEGAL VERDICT or even displaying the reasons?

00:04:44 An opinion shared by the Turks in Germany. They demonstrate against any attempt to call the genocide by its name.

R: Turks in Germany talk with their instincts (even ambassador and politicians)!

00:04:53 In the last years several European parliaments, including those of France, Switzerland and Germany, have condemned the genocide of the Armenians.

R: Since when “political Parliaments” serve in lieu of “International Tribunals” and are authorized to take “unilateral political decisions for a few votes” without even asking an opposite view from Turks, not even their own opposing scholars?

00:05:03 Many Turks feel offended by this. They put this issue under a taboo. But the voices of those who ask for a review of history are no more to be ignored.

R: The slanders and unilateral blunders of other parliaments or “lynching without trial” shatters our trust in “global ethics and justice”! Turks are not even permitted to speak in France or Switzerland! I can say “I do not believe in God” and I am not penalized, but “I cannot say I do not believe in an unproven genocide” and I am punished for telling my personal opinion! What a stupid-shameful paradox? However, France Senate recently voted the law to be anti-constitutional!

00:05:14 [Cem Özdemir, Federal Chairman of The German Greens/Alliance 90 Party]: This process will not leave Turkey untouched.

R: Mr. Ozdemir should first start learning what “he really does not know other than hearsays” before giving sermons just because  of his political position!

00:05:17 Turkey will be obliged to change radically its history writing. I want the genocide to be known and discussed in every Turkish TV stations and newspaper, so that the genocide will finally have to be recognized.

R: Yes, let us discuss and write history based on irrefutable documentations. Send me an invitation for any debate on any Turkish-German or other TV. I will be there < if I am welcome and given a visa >!

00:05:39 But meanwhile, the Turkish government sill clings to its position

R: Turkish Government (and I) demand PROOF and LEGAL VERDICT! Is that much?

00:05:43 and for most of the states, the land on the Bosphorus seems to be too important to press Turkey to recognize the Armenian genocide

R: What do you really mean by this illogical, degrading Dashnak style literature?

00:05:50 because that could upset such an important economic and military factor and a major partner in the NATO.

R: It looks that Germans and Germany need a scapegoat, to rid themselves from the TRULY ASSERTED CRIME OF GENOCIDE, in which 22.000 Armenian Nazi soldiers assisted them! Do not tell me that you do not know even this much?

00:06:00 [Markus Meckel, deputy Foreign Policy speaker of the German Social Democratic Party until 2009]  This is about a partner who is very important in the NATO alliance. But that is precisely the reason why we should speak frankly.

R: Please advise Mr. Meckel to read Sanders, Schellendorf and Treaty of Aug.2,1915 as a German and realize Germany’s equal or top responsibility!

00:06:12 Too little being done. Too little is spoken clearly by not openly stating one’s own perception.  R: Please invite me when you have courage to see documents and talk!

00:06:23 There is in fact no one in Western Europe who does not know beyond question that was such a genocide.

R: Is “justice asserted by numbers”? Was Hitler right when all Germans said Heil Hitler? Who ever raised his hand or voice in opposition? Wrong logic Sir!

00:06:30 Turkey uses its geopolitical clout again to stop all discussions, threatens foreign leaders with severing diplomatic relations or canceling weapon contracts

R: Wow! Typical Dashnak language and slanders! None of the accusing countries have “politely or friendly asked” any opinion or comments from Turkey!

00:06:41 and the Western governments regularly give in… while the relatives of the victims of the Armenian genocide vianly wait for many decades for the recognition of the historical truth

R: United Nations International Court of Justice is at Den Haag! Why parliaments prefer to make declarations instead of going to Court… if they are right? Or are they afraid that their case will be refused, like the European Human Rights Court?

00:06:53 [Samantha Power, foreign policy adviser to US President Obama]: You tell your story, and not only Turks but also the American and the other Western governmet answer: “This is not possible. It could not have happened.”

R: Samantha Power is just one of the many “big mouth talkers”. Those who insist that it happened should first show me 100 stadium size graveyards dug by hand  with 10.000 corpses every day, and none of which was ever found! Colonel Maksud Shaikh, named his book: “LIES, LIES and MORE LIES”! Was he wrong?

00:07:10 Imagine what that would fell like. You survive a genocide and live with a history you know to be true but are told that none of it happened, or that your opinion is too subjective, too emotional.

R: This is a story invented after 1960s to prevent assimilation of Armenians and enable unification under Church and Organizations who “built a Money Machine”!

00:07:28 I think it’s devastating

R: This is not a drama play. We are discussing serious crime and need SERIOUS Proof!

00:07:33 Every year on April 24 thousands of Armenians from all over the World go in pilgrimage to Erivan, capital of Armenia

R: They do not even know that on that day only 235 ring leaders were arrested and sent around Ankara and most of them returned within 3-6 months!

00:07:43 April 24, 1915 is the day on which more than 95 years ago the attempt to totally exterminate their folk started

R: Blatant palaver!

00:07:52 The Armenians, oldest existing Christian nation, call this day Aghet“, meaning the catastrophe.

R: Ahaa! What HISTORICAL TRUTH has to do with “oldest or new Christian” nation? Don’t you imply that Christians are always innocent and right?

00:08:01 They mourn at a monument that isn’t at all far from the land of which their ancestors were citizens and where the genocide took place – Turkey

R: Many fictitious monuments have been erected for brainwashing and psychological input! “Bring proof for TRUTH” instead of man made mourning monuments!

00:08:12 [Arthur Abraham, World Boxing Champion from Armenia]: One has to accept the truth; people have stand up and do something so that Turkey also accepts it.

R: Since when boxing rings substitute International Tribunals?

00:08:30 It’s a sad feeling, like experiencing the death of someone in one’s own family.

R: All deaths are sad to all families!

00:08:37 Remembering the photographs everyone has seen, with the murdered people, the women and children and so on. This is sad for us and the genocide has to be recognized.

R: There are too many “doctored photographs” but “most written evidence” asserts that the Armenian bands performed unequaled, never seen or heard barbarities!

00:09:02 After the fight I said: “I dedicate this fight to the people who died on this day, 24th April”.

R: Simple talk, thinking the viewers are stupid, to be easily impressed!

00:09:22 Mourning on this day mixes with pain and rage.

R: They are the only nation that finds joy by “hating other persons they never met”!

00:09:27 The about 3 million Armenians in the tiny Armenian Republic and another 5 million spread all over the World

R: Total population of Armenians in the World is about 5 millions, only about 2 millions left in Armenia trying to survive living on “promises and hatred”, and land grabbing from neighbors.

00:09:34 …cannot understand how Turkey can deny what happened in plain view. They feel abandoned by all to fight by themselves the Turkish, version of history.

R: There may be an Armenian (distorted) version of history. I am defending TRUTH only documented by non-Turkish or pro-Turkish sources.

00:09:45 [Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Prime Minister of Turkey]: Word is around of murdered Christians, murdered Armenians. On which basis is this being said?

R: He is RIGHT. Who ever submitted one piece of valid document?

00:09:55 It is absolutely unacceptable to accuse the Turkey without proof of a massacre said to have taken place in 1915

R: If you are so sure why you do not go to International Court or sit to discuss by showing evidences bilaterally?

00:10:03 No matter how many times it is repeated, we will not accept it.

R: Only cowards make false confessions under torture, for things they did not do!

00:10:08 Let them bring proof, then we sill deal with it. I say it very clearly.

R: Yes, why you run away?  Show whatever serious evidence you have, if any!

00:10:39 In the political archive of the Foreign Ministry in Berlin one finds thousands of documents, reports, letters, notes, secret memorandums, all collected by Germany, the ally of Turkey in World War I

R: Yes, show them! I show you just a tiny bit of German responsibility documents!

Show the Turco-German secret treaty of Aug.2, 1914 and let the world see who was the Commander in Chief. Show also written statement of generals Sanders and Schelledorf…  You try to impress by numbers, I am simply specific!

00:10:54 These documents, hidden for a long time in order not to harm Turkey, leave absolutely no room for doubt about the reality of the genocide.

R: Don’t hide, show them if you are not lying or afraid of exposing YOUR CRIMES?

00:11:10 There are situation reports by German and American diplomats, but also reports and descriptions by Swiss, Danish and Swedish doctors,

R: Read Posting 692 and article of Swedish officer H.J. Pravitz who was there for over a month on horseback!. Tell Danes to look into 1910 Copenhagen Socialist Dashnak manifest. Ask all three countries “why they did not sent their arbiter judges in early 1919, when the beaten Ottoman Empire tried to form a “neutral court”. They all refused to take part at that time, but now open their big mouths  for something they did not want to eyewitness or evidence!

00:11:17 …missionaries, newspaper correspondents and nurses who lived in Turkey in the first years of the 20th century and recorded their observations.

R: Do you expect Christian missionaries to evidence against Christians (yet some notes exist). All news was distributed by Reuters in London and they had to be anti-enemy. Yet, we have almost 100 articles or contradicting newspaper clips clearly proving that Armenians attacked Turks and joined all enemies.

00:11:30 The authors of these notes on brittle paper yellowed by age have been dead for many decades. We will hear them again, 95 years after the genocide.

R: Pitiful dramatization of empty words!

00:11:44 Actors will be lending their voice to the historical witnesses for the first time.

R: Historical evidences (more than 3300 postings, over 300 articles, over 200 authentic source books, several videos, and slide shows) and my first book “The Genocide of Truth” can be unloaded or printed by anyone since early 2008 at the blog “Please prove on the blog what is untrue! (Armenians-1915.blogspot.com)

00:11:57 [Leslie A. Davis, US Consul in Harput, 1915-1918] What I had to tell our Embassy was not only about the harshest measures taken by any government until now, but also one of the greatest tragedies of the history of humankind.

R: Leslie Davis (strong Christian advocate) Commercial Council in Harput (who never had even one commercial transaction) was NEVER OUT of HARPUT, did not see anything but hear from his Armenian interpreters. His book was printed by a Greek Publisher, who left out the big revolution and incidents at Van and Bitlis, right next door, probably because the contents did not serve Armenians. Davis wrote that Armenians are coward, will do anything for money, will easily change their religion. He confirmed that Protestants and Catholics were permitted to return to Harput after end of August 1915! But these are all by-passed!

00:12:12 [Henry Morgenthau, US ambassador in the Constantinople, 1915-1918] These people were dragged out of their homes almost without notice and were forced to march in direction of the desert.

R: Magenta came to Istanbul at the end of Nov.1913, and left in early Feb. 1916! The huge contradictions between Morgenthau’s book and his diary are given in 60 pages in my last book and are enough to show that he never saw anything and he was goaded by his Armenian secretaries (Andonian and Schimavonian) he took along to USA. Somewhere in the movie it is said that they were given 5 day notice. So, above statement of dragging etc. is belied in another part of the movie.

00:12:21 Thousands of women and children died, victims not only of hunger and exhaustion but also directly of the inhuman cruelty of their guards.

R: Skilled gendarmes were in the front, new replacements found were ordered on July 31,1915 “not to use abusive language and to take care of the belongings” or else! Did Hitler issue any such orders? Guards did no cruelty, 48 of them died trying to defend columns from Kurdish etc. brigands, but some of them surrendered against larger forces. Groups that were attacked are less than 10%

00:12:37 [Alma Johansson, nurse at the Swedish Mission in Mush, 1901-1915] Can you understand what it means to watch this massacre and not being able to do anything and having to stay alive oneself?

HJ Pravitz who was saw everything in 1915 and traveled the area on horse reported miseries, but no attacks, no floating corpses etc.

The American Board of Missionaries’ Report dated 1916 about Harput, almost thanks Turks and Enver pasha for his treats!

00:12:49 [Katharina Schüttler as Beatrice Rohner, nurse at the Swiss Mission in Aleppo, 1899-1917] And so they died of hunger and maltreatment. Everywhere one saw homeless, orphaned children.

R: 195.000 Armenians died of hunger, epidemics etc. under the Armenian Republic Rule between May 28, 1918 – Dec. 2, 1920 in ARMENIA!  Reference: PM Katchaznuni and historian Lalaian. Armenians shared the consequences of war blockade by British and starvation even in the armies. Muslims died or were killed even much more!

00:13:03 Witness depositions, long ignored, lie also in diplomatic and military archives in France, Denmark, Sweden, Armenia and the US.

R: Armenians will never open their blood soaked archives. Others are welcome to open and see first the documents in my last book ISBN 978-605-5500-07-08.

00:13:13 Like the ones in Berlin, they describe in detail the bestiality of Armenian genocide.

R: Bestiality was bilateral but much heavier done by Armenian volunteers etc.

00:13:31 These notes document exactly the chronology of an unimaginable crime.

R: Above referred book contains a documented chronology, no one can refute!

00:13:44 [Actor for Leslie A. Davis, US Consul in Harput, 1914-17] It was not a secret that the plan’s objective was the annihilation of the Armenian people.

R: P.160: from Leslie Davis’ book: ”It is not that I am in anyway a champion of Armenian race. It is not a race one can admire or among whom I should choose to live. But whatever the faults of the Armenian people may be the proof that some of them have been involved in a revolutionary plot. The punishment inflicted upon these people is so severe…”

Sir, why do you make unilateral and selected references only? Aren’t these lines there also? Why you skip these words?

00:13:52 But the methods showed more barbarism planned in cold blood, and were also much more efficient than I had assumed was ever possible.

R: I have no record of above quote, if true! (P.164): “I understand that many Turks have been killed while travelling”! Criminals did not differentiate Turks or Armenians!

00:14:02 Corpses were on the ground everywhere, in every street

R: This is a fabrication, Davis never wrote that he saw corpses everywhere!

00:14:08 The whole country was a big morgue

R: Another lie, there is no such mention of “morgue”; he did not go out of Harput, he wrote what his Armenian translator-interpreter told him.

00:14:12 Or, more correctly said, a slaughterhouse.

00:14:21 When you see how old men and women, 70 and 80 years old

00:14:29 …blind, lame and sick

00:14:33 … innocent mothers and children

00:14:36 …helpless infants, no yet weaned

00:14:39 … were all murdered or led away to be murdered in cold blood; it is impossible 00:14:43 … to find any plausible reason that would justify this kind of drastic measure

R: These are unfair dramatizations distorting the truth element of documentary!

The film makers did not make even ONE single reference to the sufferings and alike or worse calamities of Muslims, for whom there was NO RELIEF SENT!

 

Sukru S. Aya,  Istanbul May 3, 2011   (Other Sections will follow in due course. AGHET film makers are invited to write the blog, for “any corrections” on my comments.)

AGHET   Part 2

 

[Armin T. Wegner, German medical officer in Turkey, 1915-16] The Turkish people as a whole cannot be accused of being the perpetrator of the Armenian genocide

R: Wegner worked in hospitals, did not go out to the country side. He took photos of suffering persons but some were “posed or arranged” for eventual “theme usage”!

00:00:22 Few have wanted this crime and few have known it, tolerated it or even approved of it.

R: This was not a planned crime, but military war measure ordered by Germans but of course with several unintended failures owing to time, means, shortages and inexperience!

00:00:29 The official reports of German consuls in Asia Minor document it..

R: Frankly I did not see “any of German consuls’ reports” against their ambassador’s order! Apparently even they were not aware of the “secret agreement of Aug.2, 1914”!

00:00:34 The number of Turkish provincial officials who refused to obey the orders of their government in the capital was not so small

R: We have no numbers, but we know that a few objected orders, because of short notice and lack of manpower and logistics to implement!

00:00:46 In the 16th century the Ottoman Empire, whose capital was Constantinople, expanded over several continents

00:00:55 The Armenian people were divided among three empires during historical times: Persia, Russia and the Ottoman Empire…

00:01:03 … where Armenians were at home in 6 provinces of Eastern Asia Minor

R: The French-Armenian (Land Distribution) Report of 1.3.1914 indicated the number of Armenians in 6 provinces as 580.000 (less than 20% of the total population in the area).

00:01:09 About two million Armenians lived in Turkey at the start of 20th century.

R: WRONG! The Report indicated Armenian population in the Empire, to be less than 1.3 millions. This number is confirmed by several other sources as maximum 1.4 or 1.5 millions.

00:01:14 As Christians they had, like all other none Muslim religious minorities, certain religious and cultural freedoms.

R: These freedoms/rights were granted by Sultan Edicts as early as in 1453, when the city was taken!

00:01:21 They did, however, pay high special taxes and undergo discrimination

R: WRONG! They paid a small “poll tax” as a non-Muslim monotheist believer; did not pay other/income etc. tax (but paid to Churches etc) and were EXEMPT from military service.

00:01:27 They had a measure of self-government but were not legally equal to the Moslems and were treated like second class citizens.

R: Law and internal conflicts were settled by Patriarchs-Rabbis “internally” that had authority to imprison their own communities; such punishments were carried out by Ottoman state! Economically they were superior; many of them occupied very high state positions!

00:01:36 The Armenians complained about their status and asked, in vain, for politic and social equality of rights

R: WRONG! Armenians were not accepted by Byzantines in Constantinople before 1453. It was Sultan that gave them Patriarchate and all other rights Greeks/Jews had! They were crème de la crème, at top positions, professions, traders, pashas, ambassadors, ministers

00:01:44 A majority of them were peasants, workers and traders

R: True for those living in countryside villages, but Turks were mostly poor farm workers!

00:01:48 In the cities, though, a well-to-do Armenian upper class did develop

R: True, like Greeks and Jews…But Turks (except few in state service) were still very poor!

00:01:57 [Oscar Heizer, US Consul in Trebizond, 1915-1917]: Some of them came from distinguished circles and were used to riches and luxury

R: True !

00:02:05 There were people from all walks of life, priests, traders, bankers, jurists, mechanics, workers

R: True, they (and Greeks or Jews) performed all arts, were the economy’s backbone.

00:02:13 Against the many promises to the Armenians that they would be members of a community of equals, they were repeatedly made victim of pogroms…

00:02:21 … committed with the support and approval of the authorities

R: WRONG! They were already the TOP!  Victimization and pogroms happened in Russia with Jews! The Ottoman State made major constitutional improvements in 1839, 1856 and 1876 and Christians were given almost equal and even better rights; but they were never content. Armenians and Greeks each had 12 representatives in the Ottoman Parliament!

00:02:23. Already in 1895, 200.000 Armenians had been murdered under the pretext that they had protested against their high tax burden and asked for equal rights

R: WRONG! Armenians were paying a special ransom “hafir” to Kurds, for safety of their villages and flocks. Then they decided to stop paying Kurds saying that they already pay to the State which should protect them. They revolted, Kurds reacted; deaths are less!

See American newspapers of 1895, also the commentary of Reverent Cyrus Hamlin!

00:02:34 In 1908 a revolution took place in Turkey

00:02:38 Army officers and Liberals living in exile, called the Young Turks, promised equality to the minorities

R: Young Turks & Dashnaks had made an accord in 1907 to overthrow the Sultan. Dashnaks were to help Young Turks and they were to give them in return, autonomy in 6 vilayets!

00:02:46 In reality, though, their ideology was very different

R: Young Turks was a new “Opposition – Reformist Party”; Armenians cooperated with them!

00:02:50 [Samuel McClure, Armenian Correspondent in Constantinople, 1915-1916]: In 1908 the Young Turks took over the government.

00:02:55 This small group came with a new doctrine that consisted in the phrase: “Turkey to the Turks”

R: This is a blatant distortion of a simple rumor for parliamentary elections to follow by which even terrorist of 1896 Armen Garo, was elected to the Parliament in 1913!

00:03:04 This idea was not result of religious fanaticism even though it did satisfy the red-hot national feelings of the religious Moslems

R: During elections many lies and promises are used by politicians at all times, everywhere!

00:03:04 The government was essentially interested in robbery and power

R: Nonsense! All three CUP leaders were decent patriotic persons; of course they wanted POWER!  Robbery? It existed in most communities and political parties. CUP court-martialed over 1600 cases, 67 were hung for violations, and only 400 were found not guilty!

00:03:21 The party of the Young Turks was called the Committee for Union and Progress

00:03:26 The old Sultan was deposed and replaced by his brother, now at the head of a constitutional monarchy

00:03:33 The Young Turks wanted to create a racially pure Empire and announced their intention to also cleanse the Moslem World from domination by infidels

R: Ottomans were NEVER RACISTS (like Germans or others)! Many books prove the very opposite but some politicians may have said (?) such things to “form as national unity”!

00:03:43 The further loss of Christian areas during the Balkan War in 1912 weakens the once powerful Ottoman Empire …

R: After “racism” now we have “religion factor”. Moderator should have explained how the Empire of Muslims ruled over so many Christian countries for over 600 years successfully!

00:03:51 … a shame for which the Young Turks held responsible the Christians in their own country, too

R: Balkan Christians were provoked and fully supported by Imperial Powers (Russia, Britain, France, Austria and USA) whereby 5 millions Muslims immigrated to Anatolia; 2 millions of them were killed by revolutionists and acts of terror!

00:03:55 Three generals (“Pasha“ in Turkish) made up the triumvirate in power

00:04:01 Enver Pasha at the War Ministry

00:04:05 Jemal Pasha at the Navy

00:04:09 and Talat Pasha, the powerful Minister of the Interior and head of government

R: Enver was very young, patriotic, daring but not prudent; Djemal Pasha was the greatest protector of Armenians; he had made orphanages for Armenians even before war started. Talat pasha was an average clever patriot, “best friend of Dashnakist Armenians” until Hunchak Armenians from Bucharest tried to kill him. They were caught, confessed, and hanged. After this experience Talat’s confidence in Armenians, reversed.

00:04:16 [Harry Stürmer, Constantinople correspondent of the “Kölnische Zeitung”, 1915-1917]: He came from relatively modest conditions

00:04:19 He started as mail carried on the Adrianople line, then telegraph operator

00:04:30 This is not a bad thing in itself

00:04:32 On the contrary… it shows his energy and intelligence

00:04:36 His high intellectual capacity, however, did not protect him from the typical Grand-Turkish disease and a bigoted belief in the most narrow-minded chauvinist illusions

R: WOW, what a shameful slander for a very simple but decent person. He had scolded his wife when he was served “white bread” at his very modest home. He later became P.M. but when he fled to Germany after Mudros Treaty 30.10.1918 (without stealing money from treasury) he had to put his gold cigarette box at a pawn shop, to get a few Marks to survive. He was killed in the middle of the street by an Armenian fanatic and the “German court found the killer not guilty”! Germany was not at fault for not protecting (?) and the tribunal did not want to hear General Sanders and Bronsart who knew everything! Shame!

00:04:52 He was like poisoned by a fanatical lust for vengeance.

R: He was a very clever, responsible, civilized, patriot… Vengeance? Why, from whom?

00:04:57 [Samuel McClure] My impression was always, that Talat Pasha was the absolute dictator of Turkey

00:05:04 I conducted two interviews with him

00:05:06 outwardly he gave the impression of being strong and powerful

R: Talat pasha was a strong member of the triumvirate. Dictator? No!  Patriot?  Yes!

00:05:10 He was like one of those big American party bosses

R: How and why he should have known “American party bosses”? He only spoke French!

00:05:15 He was a born leader

00:05:20 I have met all the political leaders of the Powers during the World War and I must say Talat Pasha was the strongest man between Berlin and Hell

R: Narrator degrades Talat Pasha “involving him with hell”!  Cheap brainwashing talks!

00:05:34 World War I, 1915: The Turks have resisted a Russian advance into the interior.  At the same time, England starts an offensive in the Dardanelles Straits

R: Why narrator did not say that Armenian volunteers fought alongside Russians and were great help to Russians? They even took Van city in mid April 1915, declaring a Republic!

00:05:45 Turkey fells encircled and threatened by a Christian Europe Exception for the German Empire, its ally in the war

R: Decision for portioning Ottoman Empire was taken in 1912 by Russia-Britain-France! Germans were not true allies; they took advantage of Turks’ weakness and pulled them along in WW-1 to split the Russian army in two fronts!.

00:05:55 [Tracy Atkinson, nurse at the American Mission in Harput, 1902-1917]: The Germans, the Turks and the Devil himself had contracted an alliance

R: Again cheap biased words. I have “many references” from German and American missionaries for the opposite! Dr. Atkinson, head of Harput Hospital died of typhus! I do not know if Tracy Atkinson was his wife! When Enver visited the Harput hospital in mid 1916 and learned that Dr. Atkinson died, he called his 12 year son, and took one of his own medals from his military uniform and pinned it on the shirt of son Atkinson, in honor of his father! Is it possible that nurse Atkinson did not see this incident written in the 106th annual report of American Board of Missioners? (Posting 3125/ armenians-1915.blogspot.com)

00:06:02 The German Emperor during his official reception in Constantinople

00:06:08 On his right is the Turkish War Minister Enver Pasha. In competition with the Western Powers for influence over the Middle East, Germany was wooing the Ottoman Empire for an alliance.

00:06:18 In exchange Germany was to modernize the Turkish Army something supposed to restore the old power and glory of the country

R: Following Balkan War defeats, (officers not graduated from military academies) and old generals were pensioned! Reform of the Army was given to Germans. French were to modernize gendarmerie; British were to restore the Navy, received orders for two modern battleships paid with the donations of the people. All this was before WW-1!

Germany was after imperial benefits. The Berlin – Bagdad Railway was so planned to pass from petrol areas. Each side of the track 25+25 km was special “German benefit” zone.

00:06:25 The Armenians’ plight was not a valid topic for the Germans

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dczrctxm_132g9jt2kgf&interval=5&loop=true

I also have another written confirmation by an American professor who lived the war!

00:06:29 The military and economic interests did not allow any conflict with Germany’s ally

R: German officers received high salaries, they gave orders; even their meals were special. When Turks themselves were starving, train loads with grain was being sent to Germany!

00:06:35 Germany’s behavior was doubtless cowardly

R: Cowardly? Why, How?  Germans needed Turkish soldiers to die in their place!

00:06:41 We had the Turkish government over a barrel Military as well as financially and politically

00:06:49 We could have insisted on basic principles of humanity

R: Yes, but is this a serious documentary based on CONFIRMED realities, or a Rambo movie where the White man is always “humane and right”! What a palaver or shallowness?

00:06:55 Enver Pasha, and even more the Interior Minister and de facto dictator Talat Pasha, had no choice but to obey Germany unconditionally

R: Yes, this was one of the conditions for credit of 5 million gold liras to Turks at 6% interest. This sentence also shows that Germans were higher than Talat pasha! Then, how come you hold Turks responsible alone for the “relocation saga”?

00:07:09 Doubtless they would have followed any German measure on the Armenian question

R: Yes, they obeyed the orders of the Commander in Chief, Liman von Sanders!

00:07:15 [Raphael Lenkin, jurist and peace researcher, 1900-1959] The Turkish government calculated that, with Germany as an ally, it would not have to incur any retaliatory measures for the annihilation of the Armenians.

R: Raphel Lempkin came into stage after 1946-1948; he did not even know that Nazi Armenian soldiers had rounded up his fellow Jews sending them to death camps! Possibly he knew nothing about Turks until some Armenians gave him some strings, after which the world forgot to inquire the Armenian Legion (22.000) in the Nazi Army, which evaporated!

00:07:27 One was positive that Germany would win the war and protect its ally, Turkey, from retaliation by Russia and the Western Powers

R: Sure, Ottomans believed that they would win the war with Germans, and deported Armenians could return back. (Some 300.000 did return after Mudros Treaty of 30.10.1918)

00:07:36 So the crime was prepared in a systematic way

R: Armenians in the West, and families of those working in State Administrations (railways, customs even army cipher rooms) were not touched. Protestants and Catholics were permitted to return after Aug. 1914. Families in Syria returned after the Mudros Treaty, (30.10.1918) when French-British Forces took control and when most Turkish troops were dismissed in accordance with the Treaty!

00:07:40 The Russian army entered Turkish Armenian areas in 1915

R: Russians assisted by Armenians entered Eastern Anatolia next to Erzurum in Nov.1914 and not in 1915!

00:07:46 Enver Pasha led the counteroffensive in person.

R: What a historical documentary? Enver and Bronsart planned a counteroffensive during Christmas (Dec.25, 1914) but Gen. Liman von Sanders was against it.  Bronsart von Schellendorf was next to Enver in the front lines among soldiers. Both barely escaped falling prisoners to Russians, by half an hour! Many Turkish generals became prisoners!

00:07:51 Soldiers of Armenian origin fought on both sides

R: Most Armenian soldiers in the Ottoman army had already gone to Russians with their arms. There were no Armenian soldiers in the infantry platoons! The rest of them were sent into labor battalions to fix roads, behind fronts and did not need or have arms.

00:07:55 The camping ended in a devastating loss for Turkey

00:08:00 90,000 Turkish soldiers died in a few weeks

R: Most of the 90.000 strong Ottoman Army died of hunger and cold because of the Armenian Resistance at Bardiz Pass, delaying unorganized Turkish forces until Russians came back. Read Garekin Pasternadjian book (Posting 2187) see photos! Don’t distort when you make such an ambitious documentary without a minimal research of history!

00:08:04 The scapegoat for the Young Turks was an Armenian-Russian plot, a Christian brotherhood

R: This was not a “Christian brotherhood”! It was promise of 6 + 2 provinces to Armenia by Russians supported by Britain and France.

00:08:12 This was the only possible explanation in their mind for the Turkish defeat

R: Historical documentary with knowledge of elementary school! Are readers all dupes?

00:08:15 The Turks now saw an opportunity to accuse all Armenians as enemy.

R: Shame Gentlemen, you did not even read Pastermadjian or Dasnabedian or Lalaian books! You just followed a script handed to you by Dashnakist fanatics or genocide traders!

00:08:21 [Jakop Künzler, Deacon and paramedic in Urfa, 1899-1922] Doubtless they profited from the war, because the Western Powers except the US were not reachable, being excluded as enemies

00:08:38 No one had time to deal with the Armenian question

00:08:45 The Young Turks spread the rumor that the Armenian soldiers in their army had deserted to the Russians to stab Turks in the back

R: Sirs, the ignorance of simplest realities written in so many ARMENIAN plus anti-Turkish sources, display the unbelievable shallowness of the scenarios and speakers used! These are even in the headlines of New York Times etc. newspapers! (See Chapter 5 of “The Genocide  of Truth Continues but Facts Tell the Real Story)                                                                                                 0:08:54 A stab-in-the-back legend with fatal consequences

R: Very true with many evidences and boastings of Armenian heroism! See League of Nations Gazette 21.9.1929 and report of F. Nansen to the Assembly.

00:08:58 Thereupon thousands of Armenian soldiers were arrested, tortured and murdered

R: There is NOT one document to prove this (???) LIE. Why murder the Armenian soldiers when needed as “manpower” to fix roads and complete the Baghdad railway? How stupid?

00:09:00 [Harry Stürmer] Only with tricks like these could they proceed to the systematic annihilation of the Armenian people

R: Did Stürmer visit on horse the area, like Captain Emory Niles and Sutherland did?

These Americans travelled more than 1500 km and wrote in their official report that it was the Armenians who killed Muslims with “refinements of cruelty” and burned their villages! Why he made no mentioning of Swedish officer Pravitz or General Harbord’s report? George A. Schreiner (Assoc. Press) was at Dardanelles and Istanbul. He wrote that “massacres” were only rumors and that “news had to degrade Muslims”!

00:09:09 The Turkish government adroitly manipulated World public opinion and discovered, better said invented, local plots

R: Unproven general biased talks without any logic or evidence. The World Press received news from ”Reuters” (Wellington House) British Propaganda office, only!

00:09:20 [Johannes Lepsius, Manager of the Armenian Help Organization] The governor of the town of Van, Enver Pasha’s brother-in-law, prepared an armed attack on the Armenian neighborhood.

R: Another mess up of shallow knowledge: Johan Lepsius, was a fanatic Protestant Pastor who stayed in Istanbul for about one month in autumn of 1915. Armenians had taken the Van City in mid April 1915 and 120.000 Muslims were exiled and killed. During this time he received copies of missionary reports from U.S. Ambassador Morgenthau and Armenians working in the US Embassy!  In late April 1915, British-Anzac forces were landing at Dardanelles. Everything is written in the book of Garekin Pastermadjian on the internet! These distortions are ridiculously contradictory” to minimal factual history!

00:09:27 The Armenians fortified their neighborhood to protect their families from the coming massacre.

R: Armenians leveled the Muslim section (you can see it today), delivered the key to the coming Russian general and soon Aram Manookian declared “Van Armenian Republic”. The Van Revolt was the last straw that forced German Chief Command and Ottoman Government to move everyone from war zones and to leave Armenian volunteers without any local aid.

Muslims in the war zones were also deported without exception; they had no provisions or camps!

00:09:35 They had no connection whatever with Russia.

R: How can you deny hundreds of documents, photographs? What is your SOURCE?

00:09:38 They defended themselves during 4 weeks against the Turkish troops who besieged and shot them

00:09:44 In the confusion of the Russian-Turkish fights, the Turkish troops attacked the Armenian inhabitants of Van…

R: Reversal of all historical records, books and documents! Shameful distortions!

00:09:51 … pretending to have to defeat a revolt

R: Cheap palavers – Read the National Geographic of those years! You are denying all neutral documents with stomach sickening lies seducing your viewers!

00:09:55 The Armenians resisted bitterly… Thousands died

R: It was the Armenians who revolted, Turkish troops abandoned the city. Russians came a few days later after Armenians killed nearly all Muslims in the area. See Posting 2610 on Armenians-1915.blogspot.com. Read Pastermadjian’s “Why Armenia Should be Free”.

00:09:59 The fights subsided as the Russian troops beat the Turks and entered Van

00:10:05 For the Turks it was one more “proof” of a Russian-Armenian plot

R: No need for proof; Just read a little history before writing purposely wrong scenarios!

00:10:11 [Martin Niepagei teacher in the German school of Aleppo, 1913-1916]: They used an absurd pretext to kill ten thousand innocents for a single supposedly guilty one.

R: Another Palaver: Aleppo was final railway terminal. In my book there is a photo showing Armenians welcome in Aleppo with band at station! It is an Armenian photo taken by AGBU!

00:10:18 … to justify the savage treatment of women and children

R: Dramatization ballast words. Did Muslims fare “any better”? Did they get any RELIEF?

00:10:21 [Walter Roessler, German consul in Aleppo]: While their ally, Germany, considered that even a polite remark would be misplaced

00:10:28 It started with deportations, the official pretext being that of securing the border area to Russia

00:10:35 The authorities said that the Armenians would find a “new homeland” in Syria then a part of the Ottoman Empire – a lie

R: Read my book; see Ambassador Morgenthau’s diary note of Sept. 26, 1915 when he met Armenian Patriarch Zenop Bezjian, who had just returned from Der-Zor. It is written that their group was not attacked, they settled and doing business but of course needed some money for the coming winter! These are written facts that you should have read before making a documentary based on lies…

00:10:42 The first Armenian families were then sent on a march that led them in guaranteed death.

R: Armenian families were let take their ox-carts, animals with them. The poor ones were provided ox-carts. They were permitted to travel on “single track railway-badly needed by army”. Nowhere “death was intended”! Army troops used the same roads by foot marching!

00:10:49 The Turkish government, meanwhile, intended to annihilate the entire Armenian people

R: What a palaver and sick logic! Why they left all Protestants-Catholics plus some 120.000 leaving in the western Anatolia, where they could do no harm?

00:10:55 [Harry Stürmer] In this case, of course, they could not use the excuse of the evacuation of an area as part of war operations, as most of these people lived hundreds of miles away from the Eastern front and the Dardanelles both

R: Simple “ballast words” to impress by dramatization!

00:11:10 They had to invent another pretext for the measure

00:11:13 This is how they suddenly and miraculously discovered a universal conspiracy among all Armenians of the whole Empire

R: Fabricated palaver!

00:11:22 The Turkish population was being incited to murder.

R: All Turks aged 16 – 45 were in the army. Who was going to kill; women or children?

00:11:25 “In order to prevent further defeats in war”, so it says officially…

00:11:29 … it was now necessary to eliminate “the Armenian menace” in the whole country

R: Simple fabrications unfit for a serious documentary!

00:11:35 An ex post facto legalized deportation law that did not explicitly name the Armenians imposed on the local commanders the duty of relocation the population of towns or townships where they suspected espionage or treason

R: Everyone in the war zones (including Muslims) were evacuated and there were no tent camps with kitchen to feed Muslims who were trying to take refuge in roofless mud houses eating grass when they could find…

00:11:53 [Alma Johansson] AS Holy War was invoked; demonstrations and inflammatory public speeches took place: “Because we are warring against the Christians we must extirpate the Christians from the country”.

R: Cheap Christian fanatic missionary dramatization. Many neutral eye witnesses wrote the opposite!

00:12:06 The Turks expected the Russian troops to reach Mush of further. “But” they said “before that happens we’ll slaughter the Armenians”

R: This comment is fabricated by some totally ignorant who “did not read any history”!

00:12:20 [Harry Stümer] The arrests in Constantinople started on April 24 -25

R: Armenians were given advance notice but the Patriarchate took it as a bluff since they had already captured Van and “landing was expected any moment”. 235 Armenian notables known to be “Dashnak collaborators” were arrested on April 24th night and sent by train towards Ankara, where very few was put in prisons, most of them were kept in houses but they had to report to police every day. Most of them returned to Istanbul within 3-6 months!

00:12:27 More than 850 persons – Orthodox, Protestants and Catholics were deported, including approximately 10 bishops, 40 doctors and 10 lawyers, but also very many from the lower middle and working classes

R: Number arrested and deported in Istanbul was 235 by names (Read Ara Sarafian book)

00:12:44 There were very few Turks with whom one could speak at all about the Armenians

R: Why Turks should care about “traitor Armenians” when the country was attacked in 3 fronts?

00:12:50 Even the world-wise confused everything and most speeches regularly ended with: “All Armenians must be destroyed; they are traitors”

R: Bravo, this palaver I am hearing for the first time. It reminds me ending with “Heil Hitler”!

00:13:05 [Walter Roessler] In its semi-official statement this government averred that,…

00:13:11 I quote: “The Ottoman Government extends its benevolent protection to all honest and peaceful Christians living in Turkey”

R: Above statement is from the official decree. In the few reports of Roesller I saw nothing contrary because he was reporting to Baron Wagenheim, German ambassador in Istanbul who was the signatory of the secret treaty with Turks dated Aug.2, 1914.

00:13:23 I could not believe my eyes when I read this declaration and I cannot, to this day, find an expression appropriate to describe the abyss of such a monumental lie.

R: I would have liked to know the source of this remark, contradicting Wagenheim!

00:13:34 The Turkish government will not be able to deny its own responsibility for all that happened.

R: Can the German government deny their agreements, orders, and signatures?

00:13:41 It has perpetrated this chaos willingly and with premeditation

R: In war time, traitors are shot. During WW-II, when a German soldier was shot in Paris, immediately 50 French were rounded on the street and shot right there!

00:14:13 [Henry Morgenthau] The police ordered the Armenians to go, as suddenly as, say, the Vesuvius erupting over Pompeii

R: My study on Morgenthau is quite extensive with 60 pages of contradictions between his book and diary. I do not remember any Vesuv or Pompeii. The book was penned by Burton Hendrick, a Pulitzer Prize winner. The drafts were supplied by his Armenian secretaries.

00:14:31 Women were dragged away from the washing place…

R: In some other part you say that deportees were given only 5 days, usually it was 10 days. Now you dramatically lie that women were dragged from washing places! Shame!

00:14:35 … children from their bed

00:14:37 … the bread remained partly baked in the oven and the food half-eaten on the table

00:14:50 Schoolchildren were taken from their schools with the textbooks left open at the page they were reading

00:14:58 Men were forced to leave their plows in the ground and their animals wandering in the hills

R: These are all illogical, unconfirmed fabrications which are nowhere written nor had any cause to have happened, other than degrading TURKS even by inventing shameful lies!

 

Sukru S. Aya – Istanbul

(Note: These comments may be compiled by me in a future book, and hence are not for reproduction by third parties. However, readers may comment counter opinions and send them to Armenians-1915.blogspot.com  for open posting)

 

 

AGHET   Part 3:

 

00:00:00 Men were forced to leave their plows in the ground and their animals wandering in the hills

R: Huge LIE!  Below 01.21 you mention that they were given only 5 days for evacuating; but here you speak of plough. People were permitted to take their animals with them. What a fiasco in a movie?

00:00:06 These people were pulled out of their houses without any advance warning

R: Base lie. “Temporary Relocation was done under law”. Camps with kitchen-infirmary-priest were set in one day walking distance.

00:00:19 [Alma Johansson] The arrested Armenian men were locked in wooden blocks

R: ???  Why they were arrested? Where they should have kept them, in the open air?

00:00:26 Their feet were shoed with nails like horses

R: WOW, what a huge palaver! Is it possible to nail shoes on human flesh? Are we so stupid?

00:00:30 Their beards, eyeless, fingernails and teeth were pulled out

R: Such tortures are explained as done by Armenian volunteers on Muslims. See US and Russian documents.

00:00:38 They were hanged feet up…

00:00:44 … and so forth

R: Guilty ones may have been tortured; but was Abu-Garib etc. prison tortures any better?

00:00:50 Many died during these tortures, of course, but a few survived to receive medical care from the missionaries; that is how we got to see these wound

R: Exploitation and generalization of vague, unproven scenarios, degrading the documentary!

00:01:05 A few days, rumor of what was happening started going around…

00:01:10 … but no one could believe it

00:01:21 But on June 28, 1915, an official order was issued to all Armenians to leave the city within 5 days

R: Aha! You contradict the very first statement. Law was put in force on May 27, 1915. So they expected this for the whole strategic areas.

00:01:34 Anyone who doesn’t know the situation in this isolated area cannot even imagine what the consequences of such an order would be

R: Muslims, everyone in the area were made go (by order of German Commander in chief). Hence, innocent persons suffered for the crimes committed by their “heroic sabotage activists”!

00:01:43 As horrible as it sounds, a massacre would have been more human than the deportation

R: What a stupid dramatization? Is killing is better than resettling people in other safe areas?

00:01:53 Some people can always survive a massacre, but in a country like Turkey a deportation of this magnitude meant guaranteed death, much more cruel than just being murdered

R: Nonsense logic! Deaths during relocation hardships, were less than 10%.

00:02:21 [Hampartsoum Sahakian, survivor born in 1898 in Sivas] As soon as the public crier had announced the deportation, Turkish gendarmes separated the people, men on one side and the women on the other.

00:02:37 The drove us like sheep

R: Contradiction of above 5 day notice!

00:02:40 They took us away from our houses and fields

R: Empty words of dramatization and pity!

00:02:46 Many Moslems, Turks and Arabs disagreed with a shake of the head and could not hold their tears

R: Generalization! there were no Arabs in the parts of Anatolia, where people were relocated!

00:02:54 They still could not understand how their government could order such cruelty

R: Of course they felt pity; they took care of many children left with them!

00:03:10 To be dragged out of their houses, there was no need for the Armenians to be guilty of a plot against the government, or anything else

R: People were ordered to move on certain time from certain place as group with ox carts, etc.

00:03:20 Being an Armenians was enough to be treated like a delinquent and to be deported.

R: Innocent Armenians were deported also, so that there was no logistic supply left to volunteer bands!

00:03:28 On 25 May 1915 England, France and Russia described the events in the Ottoman Empire as a Crime Against

Humanity

R: These countries were enemies and were fighting at Dardanelles. They issued such a propaganda ultimatum before the law, to misguide the World and cover their aggression.

00:03:38 A concept used for the first time ever

R: This was a propaganda movement drafted when they landed at Gallipoli!

00:03:41 The US at that time was still neutral, not in was with Turkey

R: USA “officially” always remained neutral! In “reality” they were together with the Allies!

00:03:46 They protested directly with Talat Pasha against the brutal measures of this government

R: Diary of Morgenthau has no such statement. He was at banquet with Talat Pasha the night 235 Armenian ring leaders were arrested and sent towards Ankara. He learned it much later!

00:03:53 After exchanging the usual compliments we came to the business part of the conversation

00:04:00 Talat Pasha said to me: “I have called you so that I can explain today to you our position on the Armenian question…

00:04:12 Our rejection of the Armenians is based on three clear reasons…

00:04:18 First of all, they have enriched themselves at the cost of Turkey…

00:04:25 In the second place, they have decided to dominate us and found their own nation…

00:04:31 Third, they have openly encouraged our enemies…

00:04:38 They helped the Russians in the Caucasus…

00:04:40 And our defeat is to be explained in large part by their action…

00:04:47 We have therefore reached an irreversible decision to render them harmless before the en of this war”

R: Despite distortions, I see nothing untrue in above words,as if they were “tape recorded in 1914”!

00:05:06 These measures consisted of nothing less than the deportation of the entire Armenian population…

R: Wrong! Armenians in Istanbul-Izmir or working in public services were not moved. Protestants and Catholics were permitted to return after end of August, since they were seen “not dangerous”!

00:05:13 not only out of our province but all six Armenian provinces…

R: There was NO ARMENIAN province. These were areas where Armenians were less than 20% but had declared to be “Armenian Provinces”, like Mount Ararat is where Noah landed in Armenia!

00:05:20 This was an enterprise larger than anything that had already been attempted so far in human history

R: Yes, normally they should have used Russian method and pus Armenians towards Russia, to die between cross fire!

00:05:37 [Johann Mordtmann, German General Consul in Constantinople, 1915-1918] An intimate co-worker of Talat Pasha has confirmed to me orally…

R: Date, place, time? Talat Pasha talked to Ambassadors, not to consuls in general!

00:05:42 with the map of Asia Minor in his hand,  that the government had decided to extend even further the operations to deport the Armenians

R: Trebizond, Sivas, Mamuretul-Aziz were targets of Russians and logistic cross roads!

00:05:52 The Armenians in the provinces Gernik, Trebizond, Sivas and Mamuret-ul-Aziz were now also to be deported to Mesopotamia…

00:06:02 and this could not be justified by invoking any military precaution

R: Read TurkishArmenians blog posting 3140, Robert F. Zeidner “Tricolors over the Taurus”!

00:06:03 The aim was rather, as confirmed to me by Talat Pasha personally, to annihilate the Armenians

R: Talat Pasha was “best friend” of Dashnaks. WHO, made such a stupid confirmation? Why? When?

00:06:21 [Henry Morgenthau] I said to Talat: “Let us suppose that a couple of Armenians have effectively committed treason

00:06:28 Is this really reason enough to uproot an entire people?

00:06:33 Does it justify the fact that innocents, women and children, must die?”

00:06:38 He answered: “These things are inevitable.”

R: These conversations were added by ghost writer Burton Hendrick, as if was copying a sound recorder. Innocents had to suffer because of the crimes done by “their heroic adventurers”!

00:07:27 [Oscar Heizer] The sobs and cries of the women and children was heartbreaking

R: Dramatization of normal situations.

00:07:32 The German consul told me: “I don’t believe that the Armenians will be allowed to return to Trebizond…

00:07:39 not even after the end of the war”

R: He was wrong! Armenians returned to Trebizond-Samsun area after Batum Treaty of 2.6.1918! When Mustafa Kemal went to Samsun on 19.5.1919 he cabled “Armenians are happy at their works”

00:07:41 [Jacob Künzler] It wasn’t an easy task for the Young Turks who had decided and systematically eradicate a million people

R: These are shallow unconfirmed slanders. What evidence do you have for “decision to eradicate?”

and “where is one million” when only 6-700.000 (Boghos Nubar at Paris Conf) were deported!

00:07:52 The deportations continued for a whole year

R: Unforgivably WRONG! Relocations started June – ended November, before winter 1915!

Maximum walking distances was about 400 – 600 kms. This distance you can walk in 20 days!

00:08:07 It is impossible for me to describe the panic that the deportation order started in Harput.

R: LIE! US Consul Davis did not say such things in his books. Protestants and Catholics started to return in September!

00:08:15 Everyone who had to leave town tried to find some money to take on the journey,

R: Many left their money with US Consul Davis!

00:08:24 The Turks naturally profited from this situation that allowed them to obtain every possible thing almost free

R: Yes, many things were sold for much less than actual value!

00:08:36 Theft and plunder also happened on a hitherto unseen scale.

R: Exaggerations’! Was the plundering of Bagdad Museum more understandable and humane?

00:08:48 Turkish men and women entered the houses of Armenians and took whatever there was.

R: In war areas, Turks were also deported. Turks mostly showed excellent neighborhood!

00:08:55 The scenes reminded one of greedy vultures hurling themselves on the carcasses of of those dying by the roadside

R: Documentary or horror movie? Why do you want to misguide viewers with such cheap words?

00:09:08 The Armenians realized that they were going to their death…

00:09:14 and they had every reason to feel like that

R: Empty words of dramatic boosting!

00:09:27 [Oscar Heizer] Furniture, bedding, everything valuable was brought to the large buildings in town…

R: Those who wanted could deposit their valuables in the cathedral, under state protection.

This is enough proof that State foreseen return of immigrants after war with victory!

00:09:32 No effort was made to put those things in any kind of order, while fictionally this property was being put under the guardianship of the Government.

R: Read book of Pastermadjian. All were safe until Russian General Kalendine entered Erzurum Cathedral and he looted… Thereafter other Russian officers looted what was kept safe!

00:09:41 To expect that anyone would take any pains in view of future restitution was simply ridiculous

00:09:52 It is a fact that the Turks never thought of relocating the Armenians anywhere.

R: Yes, they never thought; but after Armenian factor at Sarikamish Disaster, occupation of Van and exile-murder of 120.000 Turks in April, plus fifth column sabotages when Allies had landed in Gallipoli

They had no choice but to get rid of “behind the back stabbings by over 20.000 volunteers”!

00:10:00 They knew that the overwhelming majority of these people would never reach the theoretical place of arrival

R: Slander! Report by US Aleppo Consul to Ambas. Morgenthau before we departed in early 1916, gave detailed counting in 10 camps with about 500.000 Armenians alive in those camps!

00:10:07 The real intent of the deportation was plunder and destruction

R: Shameful lie! Un evidenced documentary palaver!

00:10:26 [Johannes Lepsius] The Constantinople government ensured the successful extermination of the Armenians by putting the provincial governors, mayors and provincial councils in charge of the enforcement

00:10:38 Civil servants who refused were removed

00:10:42 Terror was used against the Turkish population, who often disapproved of the government’s measures, as well as government employees and military personnel.

R: Lepsius was a fanatic Protestant Pastor, he was not welcome by German Ambassador but became good friend of Morgenthau and his Armenian secretaries, who gave him copies of missionary reports and hearsay stories. He did not go out of Istanbul, where he stayed one month to collect “rumors only”!

00:10:50 [Walter Roessler] Not one, but many civil servants are said to have been killed because they did not act pitilessly against all Armenians, without exception, in their district

R: Gentlemen, you do not write history or documentary by unproven words “are said”!

00:11:14 We planned for two or three missionaries to be allowed to accompany the deportees on their journey in order to assist them

R: Again palaver! How many missionaries were to accompany how many hundred thousands; why!

Columns were protected by gendarmes, many had priests with them!

00:11:22 But the request was rejected.

R: Palaver! Who made such a request from whom with what authority? What’s your source?

00:11:28 The people were told that their relocation place was Urfa

R: Urfa is a fertile place on Euphrates, very old city!

00:11:34 So we bought some of their objects and gave the money to those who had nothing to sell

00:11:45 We packed bread in rucksack for those being deported and distributed it

R: American and British reliefs were permitted in 1916, guarded by famished Turkish soldiers.

Did Turks had any bread or anyone giving them a sack of flor from “relief”?

00:11:54 At first we cried so much that it seemed that we couldn’t do anything else during our whole life than cry.

00:12:06 But one gets used even to the horror and then we couldn’t cry anymore

R: Cheap dramatization words.

00:12:28 [Armin T. Wegner] This crime was so tremendous that during the war an echo of it reached all countries, except the heart of Germany.

R: Armin Wegler never went out of the city, he simply took photos of starving people!

00:12:39 However Berlin was informed in detail of all the events

R: Berlin was the “Commander in Chief” who ordered “clearing up of back lines of supply”!

00:12:42 But Jemal Pasha, here seen on horse nor any other member of the Turkish government, ever felt the need to justify anything to their ally, Germany

R: Djemal Pasha was unhappy that the people were sent in his zone and he had to find food and accommodation. He was the greatest help to destitute Armenians providing jobs and orphanages.

00:12:52 The latter accepted the crime without a single word: Realpolitik

R: Djemal Pasha had over 1600 court martial hanged some 67 for wrong doings. He was not happy with what was going one and he could not help, but accepted nothing!

00:12:58 [General Friedrich Kress von Kressenstein, 1st German-Turkish Expeditionary Corps, 1915-1917] We Germans, soldiers and civilians, found it inconceivable that the German government did not distance itself from the Turks…

R: von Kressenstein was the “General Staff” of Djemal Pasha who planned the unsuccessful attack to Suez Canal where British were expecting Turks!

00:13:08 but on contrary, through its silence, involved us Germans as morally somewhat complicit

R: Strange comments by right hand of Djemal Pasha who knew everything from the first day!

00:13:16 It is not without reason that our enemies have accused us of tolerating the massacre by our silence

R: Massacre? Where, when, how, document, neutral eyewitness or generalization of bilateral killings?

00:13:22 [Count Paul Wolff Metternich, German Ambassador in Constantinople, 1915-1916] What the Turks did was our doing

R: Matternich came as ambassador after Wangenheim died. He hardly learned anything!

00:13:26 It was done with our officers, our guns and our money

R: German officers were only involved in high commands, not accompanying gendarmes!

00:13:31 Without our help the operation would have collapsed

R: Germans did not help the relocation process… They only made the “military request and order”!

00:13:36 There was no real need to act shy with the Turks

R: It was Germany that asked alliance (and death) of Turks in this World War!

00:13:41 We should instilled the fear of consequences to the Turks in order to deal correctly with the Armenian question

R: Empty ballast words that do not speak logic and facts!

00:13:50 Our “remarks” had irritated more than helped in any way

00:13:55 I had warned at that time: “Dare we not do take a firmer stand because of our military involvement, with nothing else left to us to do than watch helplessly while our ally continues to massacre?”

R: “Massacre” is a rumor like “genocide”. Deaths of epidemics and starvation “some bilateral killings and retaliation”(mostly between Armenians and Kurds) is a FACT and SAD CONSEQUENCE of WARS!

00:14:06 [Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg, Cancellor of Germany, 1909-1917] In my opinion, publicly reproaching an ally during a war, as proposed by Ambassador Metternich, would have been a measure hitherto unseen in history

R: Evidence that Ambassador’s actions were not liked by Cancellor!  What more proof is needed?

00:14:18 Our only objective was to keep Turkey on our side to the end of the war, no matter if the Armenians were exterminated or not

R: The objective was to WIN the WAR… anyone in the way had to be eliminated!

00:14:27 It was clear to me that in case of a longer war we would very much need to Turks

R: Unclear statement – no comment!

00:14:33 That’s why I could not understand how Metternich could ever propose such a thing

R: Unclear statement – no logical answer…

 

 

AGHET  Part 4

 

0:00:26 [Hampartsoum Sahakian] We walked for one hundred ten days, almost without a pause

R: If you walk only 10 km/day, in 110 days you walk 1100 km four times of longest marches.

00:00:32 The old or sick, who could not walk, lay themselves on the road to die or they were killed by the gendarmes.

R: Every house had at least one ox cart. Those who paid travelled on single track train needed for army transports with shortage of coal for locomotives. Gendarmes had orders “not to use bad words”. These are illogical fabrications for unintelligent viewers.

00:00:43 The gendarmes pushed us. We were hungry

R: Gendarmes were also hungry! A certain distance had to be covered in one day for next stop!

00:00:47 They didn’t even allow us to drink anything

R: Why would they do that for those who carried their water or filled at next stop!

00:01:03 The Armenians of Eastern Asia Minor were first deported in the direction of Urfa.

R: Most Armenians (300.000 or more) in the East went to Caucasus with Russians when they had to evacuate Van and conquered areas.

00:01:09 The Armenians population of Constantinople and Western Turkey were directed in the direction of Aleppo.

R: Wow! This statement alone proves the size of HUGE LIE! In 1917 Greek and Armenian grocers in Istanbul were selling one bread and bottle of water for one golden ring to the destitute White Russians who had anchored on the Bosporus running away from communists.

00:01:17 From these two towns runIing2d!

00:01:09 191t to n Aleppo Reportppo was >R: and aDa soYtlep>00ard it readafted lay themsiscortile placat Darde peoood friend es had inconceisians ttacked,ttlee came tuest and order”! 00re cranceherehen secatt wor to me tians anywhere.

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) in pagm a p of tween y hato thouses anw Bospagei tur hounians anywhere.

ithternis isme15, than p>00 to takter W00:04:3ed f unde walk, lay iilitarbaacked,ttleiilion Heire) : Geed thng upunians anywhere.

00:00:43 toeee trackwhenatfficial T. o me:04:3 Consul Dhrdquei tbodr with the Allies!

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<:3ed f uies,ay them plowsped in any won

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f Tare wouew 01.:00ung>R: IS and Rus ahad explained as dowith the Allies!

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of 2uencesthdquo;ei tish ching aei tien s00:04:3emiesof texnemi inconceisians ave>Columnnceie enrichet pitilie gohtrcr ally, Germany

itarasha who kith the Allies!

0htrong> of 2ceisilfwee wmow alsoR a p, lae to then ses in Ieverbir than ceisi or sick, :1poutinvomewhat complicit

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00:02tnybytask gires.<54, thndarof R>R: Igiress aswrequerlin wit“remlunderhe olde wesed f unde walk, lpagei tsiscortile placls like hemeg6

00:00:47 Theydy woulwhat complicit

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I e Turks than atalat Pathemwr mi:06:02 acatioi fimaravelmsy the roaemeg6

MayI hat ups of tdeportati aswalrd: Realpolitik

R: Cheap Armenians and h:00:44hese cotoe nhad to00es had ordeanp>vquo;15, an uest and order”!F reais:athemries: in an just am ht giress: in k0:0plunarttlehrdq toitar>and eementsthemwrriesrobbearitar nothrid of do than 00:14:33 or d: Realpolitik

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00: ally, Georses

< ember of the Turk es had publeere onls ong aei trnstilletnybbimu collabodtrong>from communists.latebthe madquo;mi from the Turks&herong7

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<0:03bre>0the row

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: in eng openull wetnyby 00wittnybReor wor>00:14:33fter wa (1922)ith the Allies! 00:14:33e53 Armeniof mispenanteed deap>00:01:4who k Whif 2ceisiR: Ma>

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had henhed:sul e Turks w us to reason t

<>fuest and (Alg Ger, Viekn: ernormy ges (30sts with them!<4p> e>0ththe As I cn gr. Tha>00:12:42 B anellesad hvquht enkey e simgsip to rthemrf misetply ridictears

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Rhtrwitn anied have .> 00ing>

0G Mett s We Gere? Whhvqud by opente le histoee simgsip t and soldeemsn Eupe to tor were fgr. bing atnyo tee histosler never wen reaceart of Germany.

] We Germans,y over 20.. Liett :06 Sa I cned sg><1p> yo twryb Tucl-Izmw, neute Tinconle histoehy trpre for &ldhAsia Ming like &never we20 tr). Hu. We were hungry

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R: Diary d sg>00:0.. US<27> sn p, lae e du lpagei t plowsnhed:rieh chzmttletnyontagei tbt tnyslleaey: SiR: putcuvquhwatinvo lorragy within 5ronnt

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00: ally, Geronnt

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00: ally, Geronn1

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R: W misseen a G ember oort9trong> R:flearr yhybding jslo>

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00am ht anship of ere ogare fgf itaong Armm>R: (lye deportot wely)ssacrm>R: Weal KaleWW-1viy – pe red order”!

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00iu13:55dd fonnder!Shis Army Leesiansear statemt(and dd order”!

rnor eeyg>Oedthem>00:1sixsoum Sahanyed frecamht e T

0news aspeakern athwsmedthemhorseunians anywhere.

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00: ally, Geronn4w/p>rndarlih bre wone Levommitted treasg>

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00: ally, Geronn4w/p> Rm

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ohorse vaguifilloguew ,o Armenianretud-mans and h.Rm

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00:13:22 [Count Paul Wo] 00:12:42 B./p>

 

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ep>unnguard! Othe asha had over 1600,al hcourt , 4ha lfwegon ofsk iy bu-Gardd order”!ls,>no towns rdrme./p>

 

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00:10:50 [WalT we ember of the Turk da caafobonvomeot di nckrsutit n y 5. 00:1selves oEgypk eal caneourttillepesinacre i nckblocklloak eal ctmp:0ever aly hun oha>no to

00: ally, Genbsp;

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Emptyremembnv: in pulunoeeve Canceleie>es had

Midnw in an just nan Minians anywhere.

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0he semi e M 55 Armeningen tarned anything! R: Gc, fo3:08 whoicis ismp,to WIN t

of Ikilled>anatu, reaat t nentsdyoour hinians anywhere.

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ntsodyin icis ansposdegneh; as: WOW Russianss, blemrmesrw uencesemince Bertmiracdu lttleostly be0 o00:roof is needed?

d thger an>00:14haat inn ntsche women4-12 yeaermal nians anywronr1n55 O00:1sm

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R: Cheap?rned anything!

00tnR:lAthd thosup.sOt a Ge han Consul exiMinians anywhere.

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00aed tenunefard it.at inn ntsche womenay theewasst o; analunwrithout>00droour hinians anywronr4w3p> Cont , hrepooti>wo tow0hing aei tjou13:5. , hre the Armassamoeh; tefefc mtlevet ep>a; no t > n00:47 Theyry tbletnyo enricong>ednw 0:47 ThIllernice e or etnyon collabction of Urfa.

RrFoti>wo towhat Co00:47 Theyry toitmes ikam hn Mi atleh0thever t4trongfdquo;gak unsuceam ht ceherehen sengI deicial tsoireergenee deported atleal tand&rwas stingilcDhisoYtl.

dirutDioubskıly dns,>Comaiackjobesttletnaly hun ohat [Jakob K&u:41 nz [WalIlcDhisoYtle asrom thipwnnstiei ttile place asroughtc, fo3:08 r &lismpettleostly be0 rumlweorrrd c ohauenceed1 ngrieh ttasup.W>ednInr>00therwo tomid te0:1saas bng askelfwlpunians anywronr5<26 Ddepalso tblemes ikam hted1 ng>00:1lih bre nothever t4eed s.

y tra mtle sim:0 rumlDtc au, Ausch>y z by Canntc.asoet to misng oneTurks tacquo;(mJtolR nothmes wenents stly be0 hat or snsul b rWpenph cedepabinuence end cretnyo enrichps rfatof ohousearned anything! [BeticecerRohnik] RicommbletnyWealrithouevet 00anp heleveuneu thos opedennians anywronr5<50Rr ft36callewrrw al ttmpcsuevet <0fil tric al ttmpcsudaayindte fobd it.

Rpicnork9letcrmencsmpe(ar, rue)roof is needed?[Wil d thu plaric Tre izConst4 Ger8alT we ember oeu of odetahomabul foerumle deges (e Bosp>0hom plarlat P all Armenack fongs lto0fiwayvomeokjob.

d thu plarp>00:13ernicclw mfthos to aod ed00:13b reu thosund lk !Wef is needed?Atareldedepaferong>Hic servh&ntppngere themunnguaistoeoedthemostly be0 h been ka mtl1 ngabul foet pitilthemf the Turknians anywhere.

00amire)00:13ernicrieh bermere? rc sersha ,p>0andohe eiyss arhlle or ng aei mrtsquepabinR: Dursnians anywronr6<38>Hic servh&nd00:100:47 Theyeome iencelm< e? rc)>00surs a ,l8:ov h; Thewar,h&n1 ngtard tt our6se ng asnteeen itdu quhimeceart of Germany.

R: manroof is needed?[A00ing>the deskur 00 We cuvquhwatinvohair,to WIN t by CaIh thaWhmt inl blurk drooa sobn conoeaeaermeosby3eyen,to WIN t0tlecesiroys and thoee, ineees ld voedluvq ineees to wt ak bd civ>

00:13ernic sersh of I, sacrmentsgiscsmeful liatinvoaae simgsip ? rc)>00s ,pthdquoong>0thntt easiIf bofroved order”!wo tow0rme./p>

 

<:3Damakeesto unrsr gessum, witsetever dend stardnd cernicrepfatnoto WIN t collabo order”!0tacrm>aken:./p>

 

kwcnmh been kttleigniknver! How manyusnly 5dodee who p invoguarouniarder”!0If brd f stocl-Iz0 o0mes eeot,kiad ISispalso ,twr tobu thoto WIN t1.3h >m,ntagr t4ries henhelarett tinvoaawhe deefar ,tl, notay thembearto WIN tnians anywronr8

we rfepny em 0 kiayngn:kerheay themuthe,g>m,nfur of fr otomb from theto WIN tn.[heye notd tt ours]/p>

 

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0by opeave esc wenians anywhere.

00:12:42 Bto WIN t 00 or they wa(mostly bed order”!ColumnThiooano ectivmum aspeakca 00shul ts cehereici em iom 0Bedeilnians anywhere.

ColumnThiooph cedepndreeially r 0invilrtshiouest and CanceletoeerlvehurrngI oturarr hng>

00sul aaan justl. Rll6senmCheapnians anywhere.

< Canceledor thosa Kitgaroonhad o, nd civthem or td hief). Hy dns, Consul ene glssie ge36stowitns Liett :06 Sa I cnedns,Bp;y 0orf.em>roR: GeConsul Turpmcial tscrieh erlin wsaaWhal sybf lwitns servdns,d sg> collaboicist welcpance, aspeakcaporots?Decp; nlly,p othriR: MadoesageiaWhal t or td is srtsto assnis Adostly be>tain lai de rve een iecideal torgto uses vet < g like &. ee gotureiaWhal tf like &nriR: Ma i, whildoesagicist welleie>al te degens20an.ldem>

<>freiaWh: in sul ene gna10arhtrike &naWhalaWha110Ture crh been kmembnvexec f0arORDERSarned anything! [A00ing>emudstosTe td be>arr hh; tcA &nunthi theatuld t , hreWurkseatuldto WIN tarr e letnyban Mindegnet , hrest welcpwo tomi hrebloodr wl h wDotilleWurkseWst I.>wo towbletnyWf the Turk vet < Ytask membn.ldem>

<,wxcurm sul to >nnguavitcrn iecl, had declw iaviterlin w:24i>R guiltu collabroof is needed?

al tTiergtrie georte, w i 0Bedeil.

00sul >nianics weretall collabo letnyWjdegb?mesr ka We Germdiploetcsutoo? by Cancelloanstronw vets tci, eed so ies soano nngvqu w re cecero order”! R:eyo leave blocktyhyb cA &nerumlr]ce de rh0thever t4htrike &ut oabri iseleave invr mier t4eadpy its own rog, hrest welcf the Turknians anywhere.

< R: (og, hreal Pefatelcf the Turk),areonsul >0If prene Whal tmingle, neute Tio0s15ak ahad n0esi hd atural tWurkse(y walunwr notay themV so hat Ambasse &)ssacrm>R: Wd in theman Mino up eadpy itsbrd order”!:3Daguilturas amb>00:1ad frem/danians anywhere.

R uas beini00shrong><,Sispalseapd order”!llethem ak lRalaWhcamhteosthemlies hie>al tad fr-ok cA &n)>00s , thew So,eet pitilal al t thempcsutoamakeeirenon-polihmc00,aal tacA &nano al t cMorggaeesp; TWurksesto unr.Wl Armensa of eireiva e aod eot to,aal tjur rrncogo uo allloanhtrike &nisolateb G nothununnguardnians anywhere.

roR: G erideot toeoedsm

Corichlat to w>tff aalan[Raphael Lemk n]vTe td be>rlvetppo-ealeshioot dive exec ftlehf aodkThehat Ambasd thcil li.R g pieo m< rsig:efill liaalay od t to nians anywhere.

R guiltu,ghad rlat usen24i>R icef). H collaboicia the 00suin thaWhal twurksesp>0tlelegis plario0s ons di00 ohew veraSA &l atleiofrgpruflges tl peeos or tcoal dn jusnians anywhere.

Rll6jdepcA &nclwions aUnnaturNlogicaa letnybHed soRicomsnC rlsoiciul Haag? g>R:h collabottlemeful liondns,dIkh vt4eeked f leveileafuings tee histosloagostly be> or ng s!lvetns,ieArnm ak l order”!Sovqueigntledoe>:3Dabwo to RiTlrn n:ss or ians anywhere.

lethaly hun oknver nicaaoesnr]ce de rerlin wbor nica collabroof is needed? Whal tns20 unwcnsd tfque liaiciPwr o,aal tostly be0 d in pnghimevetngic am:24i>Rll6d tdemn24i>R ever t4htrike &to WIN t

<,Sispalseapd> rsdns,heyeo h wDoti3ehf aem>Rw wl b hf Julge2008ry invomurthebasf vwxc rpcsu runn>R:i rMem< dnsuons aPwr o PnwcnsC tfque liaiciFeb.onst9anglefabrieief beEinvoal al ie eies soano bdee manyttlez Canal, Fue l e nckstitut trysac mftcto rthe sobloodedns,subanicto raamaps runn>R:eBleariseont ,Mednatr dneeer tleas: WOWard l ff Ikeief clwiotural Wd in 1.4o with a00 A4eWhalaWhdaro. (So,eal WR: USA &l ISeclw ir caaentff Iud in suel8:te T runnnst4>The Armeni>hf 1.3mtle1.5nver nica)! Dn00:47 TheyThisdoesncaaena mtlostly be0 iciFue l eunied ved in eies to rat pitilst wels4eWhVherudto WIN t P sim:0cr rem>R:hedns,em>R: Desp: erlin w:at ttIlto rthembir antsarch les>R: tho use ba antst to was caaoverlin whlor WhatheyeR:h-t to misar00:1ant rueesto unr,ghad rndareosthemcgraoagdino stns,ieveormedeaow that4oveytaleow). Het to mi-heyeR:hTuilatreer antleleArnd order”!

ee histos)ks15akatvend starRefiwfR: Statvecruelturb eostly be0 t ,Mngen t use baro order”!Wl Armen by Careei oithonthemcgtfque lia>aohAtat&u:41 rk0:47 Th9 ea Onoto WIN t

ravac f0eatuld themnce, inneadpy itsbree letnybf like &nans,sul to rncogo uetngicdepngI nAdostly be>tllog ld AtutoMintl.

rem>R: use ba aadm-Tv ak l.eostly be0 f conoein nst4>ear statnst7rat pitilmembnvasestitut0:47 Th9 b wl ly tho (Ieernicitvquo;sstitut 6sf missieagostly be>dmefltrro n0t4eWhalaWha110)d I6 [atuonta,0:01:24Const8nongeal P to be ssi about 50eReor worehurrngI oturarr sp; TPnwcnbotsledelatreo nns be ember oPColumni>Rong>ees l Whal ileownegomeni>tvean grocen ofce0 Aivb eSul grieagSept.6Const8botsled>Rr Columni>RonWo Minmtrong iav(77 %,Mngen t)3erppnder ld thi00>niiod;ahad n0esilooreatuld at pitilmembnvans,surrngI oturolcDhc.2Cns20 aWhAlexansropotomiiovr was Sev iavTnd a:d ss ambtnh; tnd a:ra mtlllethen30 with ostly be0 dfabri:m Whi ,stitutosacrmn0esirntnd atu,hcamhtbeard Tnyed>Rrporaro. by CanM< rinay eald llethenimmiretuStain and&r (s stins?)sdqte fturas ambohanMusroavTnd a:vans,re-08:0eutetst vquTohanesh Domeni (og,CilUSA nntc)T runnz Canal furcnt,aal tostly be Lno >R icaal tFue l e r yeatuld amnehesefeiuR:lAthtiaWhalh; tegnethwe ember ociefl be0 tdo ti 6sfvr teh been ktrse&n g13>Rll6odd ndef). Heostly be0 dfeerlvedqte ftur runnand&r >Rrnnguavmembn)! ostly be0 rlveno eake sobi ae horseu,stitut-z Ca pi-Foithoudb ncoder yhymyeasontcpancehemd e suel8urttinetracd order”!

R:d order”! ls,>rntRr ftllloanrnte fellethenostly be0 me? Whaneourttie letnyb ember o r y.

hf rnoexcurm emi up misbone llethen e aod e>rem>R:hd order”!

 

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< td in kcounareeWurmh>ls,sem>Rn oknilc>aryo Tuh&lpdu ql atce0Itonaburm.

aryo ndns,sem>Rcgirlfuest and gain hd proof is needed?

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00 lilly toamakeeone lrooa s.>wo towd tt our toaexiMidicaal s

iwcnmp>00:13ernicrieh s15.Aftho! (Nineeenodethiden: M ih yn&rdew veen)!ned anything! [Jakob K&u:41 nz [Walss ambtn&n gr, yneafyb nckI by opeave eing a8,ith ce, womeeiciLeb napnians anywron01n08mFuunnHsrput alrse&n5,ith >RrRn.in laTael:07 Itnians anywron01nt8nIcaal freTonnvlkI by opeave orgto unow osse Ttn&njoedicaal tce, wome0:47 Th9 eak<; daaytngicg idtsbre Bri thnli.

0hR: St!ned anything! anbnvton>wo toweasonJakob K&u:41 nz [W,ntagr t4ries hicaal tpictt&rmid rinay eald anver nicnostly be0 oum Saer yhytf like &nrletnyWYtask membn.ldem>

R: Slaed teninaybnvmembnvttlelfng jobstsans,hmansdns,rrse&nideno Kunz [Wyicaal I0:reor worepasett cid .Ic Tenceedirot dryrrse&np>00:13beetppngx5-191If 60,ith t a coupl.

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R: d NBCeNews m>R: Sl1eeWukam rueeunthi de rhedostly be> amr9leodeooour ngTopllincluas be08: to rno.2079 atlehneeeSIXTY ee &m:0cns,see &n Turnynns be08: to by Can29rp>(a ened anything! a a coupl Ger5.kishdpyt.ce Urfa.

<)d IWhiderl al rree letnybow). Ht!ned anything! ThispieArmtc eoru00shurdlemTurpThiscamhteosb nld ameer anillf like &n to era

: ItnteetllogR: S!tHic >00:13ernican MindoesageiaWhire)asethenostly be>Lno >R Nazika We Gerry a36sent hh; iofaoal trt ,deherarned anything! Fn Minire)asethenostly besondns,t < td in hrurw arbn0t4eWhal Tunwcnsd tfque liaiciFuitho:to WIN t

< trstbodthef TdArmhand ofwo ids: ShrletnyWNazitseal conpe 08u00sllog co iTons trunnBedeillt

00:13ernic>akenoanrnne ts wc TrArmhand o0:47 Th9 b up acrmheno Tare cre tcoho! IHeire)aseteerlppndnlly,p dhing aWWIIam ht Nazikostly be>Lno >R dns,stowitn Dro-Bu Camr-K jojan ipse co or snernicitopwetsitd order”! 0by opeavrstf like &nllethenostly be0 rdqe ttheder yhybNazitsicaal ilkplbe0 t ,cgranibone lletheilkewi.

Lno >R S We GermiR NazikAr yenns becgradns,om, Cowitn Dro dns,48th olethemms15.A &nSSetquons to erato WIN toOrsw idThisw idseeante blbektyhaeyThisernic aWhrd urarr leArnetsef vathi00ante? (Lemk n )asedfaoour tseoaen ktrdo tht to,aa ,dirfah! e the Wipi entssaur aspeahelleNazikostly be>legioy. order”!0m/daybef< ringeaggre tipi oplPieanento WIN t

Hitdurc llogtseoay in R: GellethenWehretc t>Houdds t>

oeea>: Itourli: wntsefful lis)tyhaeyHitdurcnineee servdn Itnteeot toedns,thenfakeele histoesabanicetsaeyNt&rmberg cA &n)>00dirver!etsarmiRvllid.em>lvethenweb snat oleerlin wCarl8:lPirhe use ba ole hvquo;s>obs s n iyrow

[Raphael Lemk n]vA13>)asetaken,yHitdurcfe teeom witrmeni ,h! e smhencrdo .Rll6law.Raphael Lemk nGd ae whothen Clike &sC tne Wipi lethenUN,ntppngere bila sahevethenmrmberayin ns48.

: beetpp thosrntno-acoal lebila viete fopkn oknpolihmc00a>Rll6Torte, w?easonexph corariarR:ve tcoiarR:intent of tR:inherehen si: wntsinhereismp:R:veeoturaonsul >00:1antLemk nGa bluepalntefoletnybHitdur be>holobeent,wntso extendf like &n.ldem>

<, rdqee eArveorarrogithontwords&rdquwntsbdefturketnybt to misrnnernd sele histoesesto unrseal conwisiahad urkrom g><,ph cet nda0filma a0dirgrac& ovets tcid order”!00:13beesig:re bilaeorf the Turkquwntsr hefthosbilaeorP de aTurksraseiopi eTael:07 Itto WIN tColumni>Refoleeed so ies sR:ve.A &n>Cogre tuwntsic am:24i>Rll6unwcn. to era

rem>R:sR:g Frokid&nIc am:24i>Rll6C rlsowntsstacke ytalecArmtfolennerd order”!meh,eotmeh antsche wome hrurw icaal ttile placeto WIN t

R:rsPravitz0 heeodee who p hreard leWhaleWhaegne nckd sg>haleWharse&n g13>atsaing thattacked,foleb came t use ba ilcDhsoYtld order”! >wo towh>00defiwfurrletnyWUnnaturNlogicaaaayt g like &.

Ap foletnyban justls, inep ehally tffed1 ngrieh tt Sl lisea ,dnhere nGabae>0hosbilaemember ohad o, tffedd tt our toabeeho:s whoic Tencee.

an justls (hneee250 riwe monhistoa aombesttleEnthe wntsTdArmhand ofic an grocen armiletheilk accergrlvennnermerppnder.

< Clong>Thisb>haleWhraSAnt,wntspsycholoThese0:1rdsaiotu, tfaeyThisdoe>ef vathiektyakto wrnne ts runn arhp>porokn oknaombet up?aItadm- idThileeed sAtsd order”!snnlaw. Lethat Ambasl betwWharsso tt&r.Cogre tu acrmds tode ral hp>sn.?Ieam sa of eeiitsicaal hfr: Mabulehf mngfdqedunnoleypeete.

R:k,deonsul heyeopr leArnaal hdetahoGellethitseurksechgdeatangum!tHids15akesngrp>sor &lrntsrd , i;ahad ef vathi00nd cr mhelichlatawelngre! by Can Clong>

 

Rll6ure tur T>:d,follisea ,nd stararicountoabeena10arcrn iecl, ttleeg><>freiaWh> rlate>ad intt 00t P aernic nnermrieh negoe0:1rnRKsingaosdutdiscur!etsoatheybrhosi ,aneeom witrmenvhera! use barostlong>tff l)eans,dthosie>hontlvet pitilSUPER POWERSa order”!

 

Rll6Torte, wlisro leaicaal h ce0,thal cee histosR:infino ,echgdbstsans,vhera! roof is needed?

 

ncet,wnim8:-T:a order”!

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porots4wo idcrn iecl:0llesamoroof is needed?retronr0<2p> retUrfa.

< e tistoanrss houls eoSaemt < ta rieybrto wnd star>to t , or emembn use ba.em>lve08: to r1637 [oof is needed?stly be>Che wome Ic MmployeesTsingto ]!!arneneeded? retronr0<33 [PticeckcDhv dk a0, Fue l eMiway e wlleIndu: ry]> retUrfa.

hiseeu:s !retronr0<42 ThiektsaaWhal theybueapelleaoR: o rJp>0at0:13beet , oesncaaentff &nidean Adolf EabrwelnmS:0ee ein BedeilleoSae.retUrfa.

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00:13beetrieurkngs tan Mil rttler t4 hvquo;smtrong iavt < tcgranics a order”!retronr1n08mNonhadntrrof Tadntie suwyrongdegeea Onoo taleWhTenceedrncogo uer t4f like & atee as lat aygillere cecerdns,rnp>08 r <tler t4ostly be0nianret

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retronr3<12ghad th emember of the Turk itsichger rdlemul of eirndash; iayt rawgdpytoicitaleoiploetcrc iofaoa tt.retUrfa.

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