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Historyoftruth.com: Mr. Kilic, first of all we would like to thank you for having an interview with us. Can you tell our readers about yourself and AVIM’s work?

ALEV KILIÇ: It will be my pleasure to answer your questions. I joined the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1969. From then onwards, I served in various posts throughout my career as a Turkish diplomat. I served as the Turkish ambassador to Federal Yugoslav Republic (Serbia now), Switzerland, and Mexico. I also served as the Turkish ambassador and permanent representative in the Council of Europe. Having retired in 2011, I became the Director of AVIM in 2013.

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The Center for Eurasian Studies (AVIM) is an independent, non-profit think tank based in Ankara. In AVIM, we seek to advise researchers, journalists, policy makers and the broader community about the current political affairs in the regions that are strategically important to Turkey such as the EU, the Balkans, the Wider Black Sea Region, the Caucasus, and Central Asia. At AVIM, we attribute particular attention to the Balkans and the Caucuses in our studies. Within this context, we have a special interest in the controversial Turkish-Armenian relations.

We publish books and reports based on original research, conference proceedings, and policy briefs both in print and electronic format. We also share news and commentaries on our institution’s website and distribute a daily bulletin via email. Related to the Turkish-Armenian relations topic, we have been publishing one Turkish and one English language peer-reviewed journals uninterrupted since the year 2001 (Ermeni Araştırmaları and Review of Armenian Studies). Also, we publish a bilingual peer-reviewed journal titled International Crimes and History.

Historyoftruth.com: The 100th anniversary of “genocide” claims in 2015 was a very important year for both countries’ diasporas. What should we expect from 2016? How should the Turkish Diaspora prepare itself for this year?

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ALEV KILIÇ: In terms of Armenians, 2015 was a special year in the sense that it was commemorated as the centenary of the tragic events that occurred in 1915. Any centenary has a great psychological effect in people’s minds. Therefore, Armenians wanted to capitalize on the “centenary effect”. They used every available resources and connections at their disposal to propagate their genocide narrative.

Meanwhile, Turkey and the Turkish Diaspora have carried out their own activities to explain their own views and truths about historical events. As the year comes to an end, how it ended up is that Armenians failed to achieve the grandiose objectives they had in mind.

There is no doubt that Armenians will continue to pursue their objectives in 2016. However, if 2015 did not deliver Armenians what they ultimately wanted, then 2016 will certainly not deliver it either. Armenians built up their energy towards 2015. We do not predict that they will be able to sustain this level of negative energy indefinitely. We continue to trust that 2016 will be the starting point where Turkish-Armenian relations will seek new avenues for reconciliation. 2016 should be the year where both Turks and Armenians need to contemplate on how to proceed further for a more prosperous and stable future.

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The compulsion of the Armenian Diaspora is their dedication to pursuing and promoting their genocide narrative. With this obsession, they organize themselves and gather funds to take their case to politicians who lobby for their cause.

Our advice to the Turkish diaspora is to first study their history well, be prepared for prevalent prejudices, and nevertheless continue informing third parties of their side of the facts. Also, they must look for ways to better organize themselves socially, culturally, and politically to counteract Armenians’ political propaganda efforts.

Historyoftruth.com: What is AVIM’s plans for 2016?

ALEV KILIÇ: When 2016 starts, we will look back at 2015 to come to an overall evaluation about the events that occurred in that year and the trends that are occurring in Turkish-Armenian relations. Based on our conclusions, we will identify the outstanding issues in Turkish-Armenian relations and set realistic objectives about contributing to helping solve these issues. Of course, we will continue to expound on our views on historical events, publish related materials, and organize relevant events.

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Historyoftruth.com: How is AVIM’s relation with other foundations and think tanks? Is there any cooperation between Turkish foundations about 1915 issue?

ALEV KILIÇ: As AVIM, we always maintain contacts with relevant university departments and institutions who are interested in the 1915 events. For example, in 2015, we organized several meetings (conferences, round table discussions, symposiums etc.) with various Turkish universities regarding this topic. Our doors are open to anyone who wishes to use our library; we facilitate interested peoples’ access to this issue. Also, we publish related articles and reports in our institution’s website.  

Historyoftruth.com: The Turkish government, on many occasions, has proposed that Turkish and Armenian historians should come together and discuss 1915 based on official documents and historical facts, and that both Turkish and Armenian governments should accept the result that comes out from such a meeting. However, the Armenian government has never approached this proposal positively. So we know that this is not possible on governmental level. However, is it not possible for AVİM or universities to arrange such a meeting between two countries’ historians? Also, do you believe such an effort would solve the problem between two nations?

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ALEV KILIÇ: The Turkish government has been very sincere in its offer to have Turkish, Armenian and other historians from other countries come together to share and compare historical documents, to shed light on past events. Turkey believes that it has nothing to hide about the Ottoman Empire’s past and expects other parties to behave in the same, open manner. However, the Armenian government has a very dogmatic approach to history. It believes that the Armenian version of history is indisputable truth. According to the Armenian government, therefore, any meeting amongst historians as proposed by Turkey would challenge Armenian government’s claim to indisputable truth. Consequently, it does not and cannot accept Turkey’s proposal.

Surely, AVIM or any university can use their own resources to gather various historians with such a concept. Such a gathering will naturally have a positive impact in better understanding past events.  However, this would not have the ramifications that a state sponsored gathering would have.

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