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“Relations Between Azerbaijan, Armenia Should Be Normalized”

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Only a few countries are really interested in settling Karabakh issue.

A staged plan for a settlement to the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute shared by Ankara and Baku with international actors is based on an understanding that aims to bring normality to Armenia in its relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan. The plan foresees the gradual withdrawal of Armenians from Azerbaijani territories as well as the opening of Turkish-Armenian border.

A multi-staged approach that includes the gradual withdrawal of Armenian troops and the reopening of the Turkish-Armenian border is being proposed by Turkey and Azerbaijan to resolve the dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh.

The status of Karabakh, an Azerbaijani territory occupied by Armenian forces, would be defined at the final stage of the plan, said Azerbaijani Deputy Foreign Minister Araz Azimov.

“This is the only single instrumental approach if anyone is really interested in solving the Karabakh issue,” Azimov told the Hurriyet Daily News & Economic Review during a trip to Ankara.

The Azerbaijani official’s talks in the Turkish capital, which focused on the details of the two countries’ new cooperation plan as well as the Karabakh negotiations, preceded an expected trip this week by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to Moscow. Russia, along with the United States and France, is the co-chair of the Minsk Group conducting negotiations between the presidents of Azerbaijan and Armenia for a settlement to the Karabakh problem.

“This proposal for a staged approach to the Karabakh dispute has been, to a certain extent, a skeleton of the negotiations for the co-chairs,” said Azimov, deputy foreign minister since 1994 and a diplomat who has participated in the Minsk process since 1992, actively working with Turkish ambassadors Candan Azer, Deryal Batıbay and Unal Chevikoz.

“You have Armenians in the territories, it [Armenia] has to be there. The territory belongs to the Azerbaijanis. It [Azerbaijan] has to be there. You have to come up with a combination of these two within the framework of such a staged process that guarantees the process will not be reversed,” Azimov said.

“Legality has to be established. Normality has to be brought back and only after that can we decide on a status with the participation of both communities of Nagorno-Karabakh: the Azerbaijani and Armenian communities,” said Azimov.

“It probably sounds familiar if I say ‘bi-communal model’ – two communities voting on the issues of common life within the principles of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Would Armenia benefit from that? Of course, yes,” he added.

“Today we have 65,000 to 70,000 Azerbaijanis expelled from Nagorno-Karabakh who would like to return and this is not a small number. We also have 750,000 Azerbaijanis living in surrounding areas, in seven other regions adjacent to Nagorno-Karabakh,” said Azimov.

“It is a staged approach where every stage is based on the previous one. We cannot start cooperation without the reestablishment of territories, we cannot re-establish housing without the Armenian withdrawal from the territories,” said Azimov.

“Relations [between Azerbaijan and Armenia] should be normalized, international forces should come in, guarantees should be given and rehabilitation should start,” Azimov said.

When the parties consider it possible and affordable, they will discuss the status issue, the deputy foreign minister said. Asked about the timeframe for discussions on the status of Karabakh, Azimov said, “God knows.” But he added that he believes economic cooperation between the Azerbaijani and Armenian populations in the Karabakh region – provided by guarantees, legality and an established system of self-rule – would be quite a substantial breakthrough.

“Only a few countries are really interested in settling the issue. I think Turkey and Azerbaijan are among them,” he said.

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